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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: new video/audio player "opt in" is live!

If you haven't already seen this (went live yesterday),
look below the current player for:

Would you like to try our new video/audio player ? (beta!)

and you can give it a try.

Some really nice features:


Please reply below with any feedback or issues you may encounter!
If you have any issues, kindly mention your OS and browser as that will help us squish any lingering bugs!

Cheers!
Tracey and the Archive Staff


UPDATE 1: as of Jan19, IE7 and IE8 users are using the new player only (I blew up something for them while doing some minor updates to carve the older player (AKA flowplayer) into its own space for easier global cutover to the new player)

UPDATE 2: iOS fixes -- some issues w/ the new player and very "short" bars (like ours -- only 30 pixels!). fixed

MORE UPDATES:


This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2012-01-20 05:33:59

This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2012-03-29 19:39:37

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:19pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE WHOLE TITLE APPEARED WHEN USING
BETA HTM5, THEN YOU COULD READ THE WHOLE TITLE EVEN IF IT
DIDN'T APPEAR ON THE LIST, OTHERWISE, U HAVE 2 SWITCH BACK AND FORTH, BETTER CONTROL ON BETA, BUT NO TITLES, ONCE U FIND A TITLE, THEN U HAVE 2 SWITCH TO BETA TO BE ABLE TO SKIP AROUND ON THE TIMELINE INSTANTLY

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Poster: cowperc Date: Apr 5, 2012 12:38pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It worked great at home, but I'm getting no audio from my computer at work. iMac running Mac OS X Version 10.6.8...Google Chrome 18.0.1025.151

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Poster: deadleafucker Date: Jun 12, 2012 8:23am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

New player doesn't work at all and clicking the option to use old player has same results. No flash installed on this box running Linux - ubuntu 8.10 - and Opera 9.64.

The old player used to work and it would be nice if it did so again.

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Poster: Dfries81 Date: Jul 30, 2012 3:07pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I am having the same issue. I have to click play 5-10 times and the MAYBE it will start playing, very frustrating...

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Poster: prtcl Date: Mar 31, 2012 8:27am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi

Go here on a Galaxy Nexus with Chrome Beta: http://archive.org/details/compilado_ursonate_0002

You will see a message claiming that your browser is too old to play HTML5 video tags, and asking you to install flash.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 31, 2012 3:41pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, great to know, but not sure how much work we realistically are planning near-term for android (i know that answer sucks )-8

do you happen to have flash on it -- and could consider the "I prefer flash" link as a temporary workaround?

the small number of android devices we have handy w/ coworkers at archive.org have seemed to pretty well work for us. thus far, android seems to me a bit harder to really "get working" since there's a lot of devices and i don't think the JS code from jwplayer quite addresses all the various checks, etc. (as you are finding).

i can maybe try some test/dev side pages for you to try, too, if you have motivation to see if we can workaround this together.... 8-p

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Poster: Folkhippy Date: Mar 23, 2012 7:49pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Please post instructions on how to configure your MAC computer with this play. It isn't working for me at all. I have the most updated version of Firefox and Mac 10.5.8

Come on guys...don't fix shit that isn't broken.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 10:33am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

working now for you?
so you have Firefox v11 then?

were you having issues (that we found and fixed over weekend)
with soundboard recordings of GratefulDead?

also had a fix for HD video and firefox over weekend (but I'm guessing that's not what you were referring to).


sure, we could never change, and never move with the tech/world as things change. but we'd miss out on a lot of partnerships and integrations that the overall Archive community would ultimately suffer from.


feel free to visit
http://archive.org/details/testplay

and paste the results to a reply so we can try to see if we can deduce anything, etc...

-tracey, staff

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Poster: Folkhippy Date: Apr 4, 2012 3:54pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Ahhh, that's much better. Everything is working fine now. Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 4, 2012 4:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

fantastico!

thanks for letting us know and sorry for the Firefox v3.6 oversight
(which I have been educated to know it is a live/active version of Firefox
and we plan to support it! 8-)

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Poster: Nductiv Date: Jun 4, 2012 8:25am
Forum: movies Subject: Height and some other features

Tracey - I'm struggling a bit to understand embedding height and using playlists. When I embed a video playlist, the video itself is sized to the width and height I specify, and the playlist titles hang below the video height with it's own (arbitrary) height and possibly a scroll bar if there's lots of video in the playlist. How do I adjust this "arbitrary" playlist height?

Audio playlists work otherwise. The hanging playlist is within the height I specify, but the scrollbar is truncated at the bottom unless the height is set to at least 380 pixels. If the playlist just has a few items and I set the height to 380 (or more) there's a big blank space below the short playlist. Trouble is, when I'm embedding a playlist of unknown length, it's a pain to format the embedding; right now I'm using the trial and error method.

Happens on FF-12, Safari 5.1.7, Chrome 19, and iOS 5.1.1.

What does the parameter "frameborder" do? I've tried lots of different parameters, but it doesn't seem to change anything onscreen.

Autoplay doesn't seem to work on any of the above browsers.

I saw something about a "Start" parameter on one of the forums, giving us the ability to start a video at some timecode after the beginning. Haven't been able to make that work either.

Any chance of getting updated usage and parameter documentation? I've worked a lot with JWPlayer, if there's something I can do to be helpful.

Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Jan 19, 2012 8:06am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Works great in Chrome

A few initial impressions (on the Live Music Archive / audio player version only, not video)

ex:
http://www.archive.org/details/jj2008-06-14.mk4

1. I like the bigger 'font' in the streaming player.
2. I kind of like how when you click a song it makes that song the 'top' song on the player's display list / it auto scrolls down so the blue 'clicked on' song is the top one.
3. PROBLEM: cannot seem to 'seek' using the seek bar to jump to a part in the song, no matter how long you wait to allow it to buffer.
4. Time disparities between what the player list says a track length is, and how long it says the length is on the actual track player as it is playing in the upper right corner. Usually a 5-6 second disparity, and the time listed in the player list usually is the 'true' time of the track.
5. the 'share' button fades in / out every few seconds instead of being static. Intentional?
6. Clicking the 'share' button, you get the embed code and the "Video Link" (even for 'audio' shows. perhaps make a more open text choice? like "Media Link" ?
7. Also for an audio concert show, having a big red X over the 'Video Link' section made me think that because this was a concert the 'Video Link' URL didn't apply / was greyed out (though I think it is just placement of the 'close' X button that glows red and changes to black when hovered over.
8. The "For more formats and information:" it isn't that clear that you are hoping the user click on the roman-style archive-icon. It kind of is, but I think the user / eye keeps going down to the 2nd line 'Embedding tips and help'. maybe change "For more formats and information" to "Media Details Page" ? or "Item Detail Page" ? ..
9. the 'help' link linked to "Embedding tips and help": http://www.archive.org/help/video.php is pretty 'new', and I understand this feature is mostly for video and audio just got lumped into it, but could you add something about audio on the linked page?

Just a few observations. Thanks archive.org / Tracey for always keeping improvements on the lookout for the user's experience!


Going to any pages on archive.org that have the new streaming crashes IE and asks to send an error report to Microsoft. (v 7.0.57) for some reason. archive.org loads fine, http://www.archive.org/web/web.php is fine, http://www.archive.org/details/software is fine, just when i click on the Live Music Archive and then get to a page with the streaming player on it, it crashes with the below info:

AppName: iexplore.exe AppVer: 7.0.6000.17103 ModName: mshtml.dll ModVer: 7.0.6000.17104 Offset: 0002efb1

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 1:36pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


> 6. Clicking the 'share' button, you get the embed code and the "Video Link" (even for 'audio' shows. perhaps make a more open text choice? like "Media Link" ?

partial/mostly fixed 8-)

ok, I've updated it to be "Audio link" instead of "Video link" for audio items, at least in the "html5" / "audio tag" variant (unfortunately IE7 and IE8 use a flash plugin variant so they will still say "Video link", at least for now)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Jan 19, 2012 8:34am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

P.S. the old 'doesn't automatically go to the next track / autoplay issue is still happening. the old < audio > link / player / trick seemed to fix it a year ago, but maybe it's back? it's a hard to reproduce problem.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Jan 19, 2012 12:19pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

*The 'seek' ability now seems to be fixed
*the times are now correct in the list vs when the track is played
*I like the 'copy' buttons next to the 'embed' section and the URL section in the 'share' button.
*nice larger 'buttons'

Nice improvements from this AM!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 12:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, i think the new player should handle "auto advance" just fine in all browsers and even mobile setups like iOS and android.

The Plan is to convert everyone to the new player soon (days, weeks at most i hope!) so that should fix things, right, since everything will use the new player?
-tracey

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 1:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

wow, great thoughtful comments as always, Tyler, thanks!

> 5. the 'share' button fades in / out every few seconds instead of being static. Intentional?

no! 8-) minor glitch/oversight as we ended up rolling out the new player a bit early for the IE7/IE8 folks after my bug with old/flowplayer...

should be fixed now -- it should stay visible now.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 2:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


(9)
good idea! ok brand new http://www.archive.org/help/audio.php page
and audio items will point to that instead.

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Poster: shaysreblog Date: Jan 29, 2012 7:53am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

having problems with the embed code(appears as link code witin player bar if I'm correct).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 29, 2012 11:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

video embed help page:
http://www.archive.org/help/video.php

you should be finding/using something like this:
(replace [ and ] chars with "less than" and "greater than")
[iframe src="http://www.archive.org/embed/peril_of_doc_ock" width="640" height="480" frameborder="0"] [/iframe]

if you are doing that and still having problems, let us know with a reply!




This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2012-01-29 19:08:25

This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2012-01-29 19:08:53

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Poster: edwabolt Date: May 7, 2012 1:55pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm not sold on the new player.
It's almost better that the whole song
downloads (while playing) until it's done.
I find the sound is quite choppy when running
other computationally intensive tasks.

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Poster: jsmillnme Date: May 22, 2012 10:47am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Have MacBook with OSX 10.6.3
It is mind bogglingly SLOW ! P..L..E..A..S..E.....G..O....A..W..A..Y.

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Poster: truemoeron Date: Feb 3, 2012 2:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

lol ok well seems like everyone has problem with it cept me :) i love it i can play the whole list of songs now, instead of having to skip at end of each song.... and the skin is a lot better :D Thank You!!!!

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:12pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

LIST DISAPPEARS ON NEW VERSION WHEN I TRY TO SCROLL ON SCREEN ON SOME PAGES BUT NOT ON OTHERS

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

PLUS THE SLIDE VOLUME CONTROL WORKS A LOT BETTER THAT THE NEW CLICK ONE, SO YOU SEE, SOME BETTER AND SOME WORSE FEATURES ON DIFFERENT PLAYERS, WHY NOT MAKE THE WHOLE TITLE APPEAR, SLIDE VOLUME LIKE OLD ONE, BUT BETTER PERFORMANCE ON NEWER VERSION


/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////


FIX THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Poster: PhaedraBlue Date: Apr 13, 2012 12:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Firstly, I really enjoy what I find on archive.org. Now for the problems. When you first started your new Beta version player, I could get it to play but it would often have issues with the streaming so I've been using the original.

Today, when I choose the new player, the video starts immediately but the audio becomes null. i.e. there is no audio the button deactivates almost as if it is muted but this seems not to really be the problem. I use internet explorer and windows 7 is my os.

Oh, one other issue, many of the uploads will not play or stream directly for me, I have to download them to my computer and play them with one of my various players. I hope this helps and if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate hearing them.

Thanks again,

Toni from Olympia WA

I can't get my reply to post on Tracey's original thread to I'm trying here as a test. I hope this doesn't inconvenience you.

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:25pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

PLUS THE SLIDE VOLUME CONTROL WORKS A LOT BETTER THAT THE NEW CLICK ONE, SO YOU SEE, SOME BETTER AND SOME WORSE FEATURES ON DIFFERENT PLAYERS, WHY NOT MAKE THE WHOLE TITLE APPEAR, SLIDE VOLUME LIKE OLD ONE, BUT BETTER PERFORMANCE ON NEWER VERSION


/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////


FIX THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Poster: blue sun Date: Feb 15, 2012 10:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I agree. I listen to live streaming (Greatful Dead & a few other)shows, and I love that I don't have the shows interrupted after every song. It could be a more seamless transition, but I'm not complaining.
Most of the issues people seem to be having are with far more complicated processes than I ever do.

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Poster: rusted dice Date: Feb 4, 2012 11:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I would like to embed audio to a blogsite...the long black play banner is fine and works well, BUT there is a huge blank blue square below and nothing can be place there. Could this disappear?

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Poster: pakulo Date: Feb 16, 2012 7:56am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

For audio embed:

The new player (I believe requires QUICKTIME plugin) will not work in browsers that do not have this plugin. I use Chrome browser and this fails there (just blue screen with the audio control bar).

So I use the old version that requires FLASH and it works all the time in IE, Firefox and Chrome browsers.

The code for flash starts with "

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Poster: Bodco Date: Feb 5, 2012 11:12pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I couldn't open any of the Dimension X files. I clicked everywhere possible. I tried to use your download program. Nothing worked.

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Poster: Bodco Date: Feb 5, 2012 11:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I should have mentioned that I tried clicking in both sections. Nothing happened when I clicked in the first section, and when I clicked in the second section, the following words appeared:

" The specified item's metadata does not exist or is unparseable.
Feel free to report this so that we can fix the problem."

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Poster: zenoooo Date: Apr 8, 2012 1:10pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Did you find an answer to your problem. I believe I have a similar problem.

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Poster: taperroy Date: Feb 29, 2012 8:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm getting but a blank black screen.\Any idead how to fix this?

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Poster: cabngirl Date: Mar 26, 2012 8:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I get a black box (empty) where there used to be a player with my older version of Firefox, but it works great with Safari.

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Poster: Msalleh5547 Date: Apr 27, 2012 10:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Good support

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

HTM 5 WORKS BUT FLASH MAKES SCREEN DISAPPEAR WHEN I TRY 2 SCROLL

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffEvilSound Company Date: Mar 16, 2012 7:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hello friends.

I have a problem. I inserted the player correctly but does not show the complete titles.

Example:

RuN RiOT - Vengeance (EvilSound...

instead of:

RuN RiOT - Vengeance (EvilSound Remix)


Example:
http://www.evilrecords.es/evil-026.php

Does this solution?

Thanks you!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 2:43pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

dear patron,

basically it's a tradeoff of how much width to take as a minimum for any playlist, vs having longer tracknames.

different players solve it differently, and this new player requires, at least for now, a hard limit on the number of chars.
so we try to nicely chop and "..." longer titles...

sorry for this inconvenience,
-tracey

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffEvilSound Company Date: Mar 27, 2012 3:30pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks you for the reply

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Poster: heimdal77 Date: Jun 2, 2012 11:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

probs with the new player on the Sherlock Holmes radio shows. The new one won't play at all soon you click one the arrow appears but then immediately pauses/stops without actually starting. Same for the play arrow at top. Also the old player some of the shows cut off after 16 seconds after stutter like with number 14 murder in Himalayas. I'm on fire fox 12.0 and tried it with add block on and off.

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Poster: skycarl Date: Aug 20, 2012 8:41am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've taking a look at the new player for a few month's now and it seems to have improved over the first launch. It runs a lot smoother than most others like YouTube with great caching. The scalability is great when going to full screen making for needing the equivalent good input. Keep up the great work as YouTube plays around with permissions from bogus companies that may not be around in the future your guys are categorically cataloging history.

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Poster: Hal Erickson Date: Jan 25, 2012 4:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The "I prefer flash" button seems to work best. No "strobing" effect at all. Thanks.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 5:40pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, phew!

flash is especially well done on windows installations and can dynamically drop video frames (while keeping the audio intact and rolling) if/as needed so it's a much nicer experience than buffering stalls or such from some html5 solutions.

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Poster: W.A. films Date: Aug 6, 2012 6:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi
Loses Sound from Hichcocks The Sorcerer after 2 minutes into movie

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Poster: flowney Date: Oct 21, 2012 1:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new player.

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Poster: Tripoli17022011 Date: Jan 26, 2012 5:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I have played different videos but there was NO AUDIO " I could not hear any thing"

Please advise what to do to correct it.

Thank you

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 26, 2012 10:41am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

can you copy a /details/ link and mention your OS/browser combo?

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Poster: imaginashawn Date: Aug 25, 2012 7:19pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I reluctantly tried your new player because the page of the movie I wanted to watch: 'Ghost of Hanley House' wouldn't even show the old player. Well, you new player showed when I clicked on the new player link but the movie wouldn't play. Eventually a message comes across the screen of the player that says:
'The video could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported: http://archive.org/download/GhostsOfHanleyHouse/GhostsofHanleyHouse_512kb.mp4, http://archive.org/download/GhostsOfHanleyHouse/GhostsofHanleyHouse.ogv'
You can check it out for yourself if you like @:
http://archive.org/details/GhostsOfHanleyHouse

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 10:37am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

works fine for me -- maybe doublecheck again just in case it was a temporary network thing and not directly related to our player, per se.

what OS/browser approximates did you have this issue with?

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Poster: adambrower Date: Apr 12, 2012 6:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

the most important reason to support any implementation of HTML5 is to prevent another Big Company from fencing off, monopolizing, and then profiteering from an aspect of the worldwideweb (as g***** has done with search.) having any portion of the rendering of websites dependent upon code supplied by a profit-making company goes against the decentralized and non-commercial nature of the internet. in this case, there is no downside, since the HTML5 player is robust and supported by most current browsers. if you have problems, update your browser.

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Poster: PhaedraBlue Date: Apr 13, 2012 3:52pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Yeah... my browser is always updated and i have no problem streaming from many and assorted other sites.

But here is an interesting wrinkle. The new player will play both audio/video instantly as long as I go through FLASH but I get no audio when using HTML5. Since you brought this up. Any suggestions? I'm using IE9 - Google - OS Windows 7 on a state of the art gaming laptop.

Thanks for the input.

This post was modified by PhaedraBlue on 2012-04-13 22:52:35

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Poster: ultracollege Date: Nov 3, 2012 3:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Great job on these Drive in movies, especially the intermission and beginning parts. Do you post these movies periodically or randomly on here as far as the Shocker Internet Drive In?

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Poster: njpg Date: Jan 20, 2012 11:17am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thank you! Finally, you guys reintroduced a player that will actually play the whole show through on my ipod! I've been lobbying for that for months!

The issues with my MAC remain the same, however: rarely will the player proceed from one track to another by itself. Why it's so recalcitrant on my computer and not my ipod might be a good thing to investigate.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 21, 2012 1:28am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

when that happens for you on your mac, what browser are you using?

we are heavy mac users/developers at archive.org
and i haven't heard issues with chrome, firefox, or safari
with this new player.

to wit, i program on Lion at work and Snow Leopard at home, predominantly using Chrome but dropping into Safari and Firefox for testing often.


glad the iPad finally working is a great plus for you! i've been pushing to try to get that done for awhile now. and yah, i'm a big ipad2 user, as well!

cheers!
-tracey

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Poster: skipjack Date: Jan 22, 2012 10:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Streamed the H264 video All Creative Work is Derivative smoothly on Safari 5 on a 12 year old Mac running Leopard. Thanks for posting in high quality compressed forms that are compatible with older computers.
The 1084p H264 with Flac version of Sita Sings the Blues didn't download at all; but I am looking forward to trying it it *after* I upgrade my System .
Guess this only works for me with short movies.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafflibrivoxbooks Date: Feb 2, 2012 2:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Just trying to play files on these pages:
http://www.archive.org/details/librivox_community_2011
http://www.archive.org/details/librivox_community_2012

Only the file with an OGG plays on the new player. All the files with only 128K MP3 play on the old player. (I can see no way to derive additional formats on these pages.)

(Windows 7, Firefox 10)

This post was modified by librivoxbooks on 2012-02-02 22:31:52

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 10, 2012 5:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, rederiving now so they will all get ogg.

also, what browser are you using?
you could click the "I prefer flash" link to make sure it tries to play the .mp3 using flash plugin...

-tracey

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Poster: 5-Track Date: Mar 20, 2012 8:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I dig it.

Thanks,
5-Track

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 20, 2012 9:30pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

always nice to hear 8-)

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Poster: Frederick E. Wilson Date: Jan 28, 2012 5:01pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I just uploaded a 12 tune set of holiday songs played on bandura. They sound GREAT in the new player.

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Poster: Ambient Review Date: Mar 14, 2012 6:41am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thank you Tracey for this update. My system was growing tired of the "flash" software and would systematically or routinely crash because of my flash error..

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 28, 2012 3:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Oops! Another little problemette...
Try http://www.archive.org/details/TheFranklinsTaleAropeofSand with the html5 player.
Some kind of a format problem?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 29, 2012 12:28am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thanks for that report! (repro'd the "um, whoa" on chrome (bad aspect ratio))
turns out we had a bad older h.264 derivative when our ffmpeg wasn't quite as good as it is now.

a rederive of it fixed it, yay!
-tracey

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Poster: YmoArt Date: Feb 20, 2012 11:51am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi great new feature BUT would be even better if it was possible to bind the new player in Facebook the same way as SoundCloud Player;)
Salût
Ymo

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Poster: DriveByArchivist Date: Dec 13, 2012 6:01am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

In the HTML5 player, the slider control on the timeline skips to the wrong place when you try to click on any specific point on the timeline to try to jump to that location in the video.

I'm in Chrome on OS X 10.6.

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Poster: IPTV Date: Jan 17, 2012 10:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Funky formatting in Chrome. Screen cap of what I experienced
http://ia600806.us.archive.org/18/items/InternetArchiveNewVideoaudioPlayerFeedback/internet-archive-new-video-audio-player-feedback.jpg

When you first load the page, the player displays correctly, although the text (circled in red) does not. After you play a selection, it changes to the display shown in the screen cap. (Page shown is http://www.archive.org/details/The_Best_of_The_Borum_Grease_Corporation, but all pages seem to display similarly in Chrome on my system. Haven't tried other browsers.)

Thank you and best regards,
--Dave

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 29, 2012 2:52pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Why can't I reply to a similar thread at http://archive.org/post/408575/new-video-audio-player-opt-in-is-live - I'm clicking on 'reply' and nothing happens.

Also, why is every audio track being duplicated in the player?

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 29, 2012 2:55pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm using XP and Firefox 11, by the way.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 6:51am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi can you paste a link of an example item that doubles the playlist for you?
I should be able to try XP and FFox 11 later today...

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 30, 2012 8:45am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

http://archive.org/details/JNN027-Palancar-ThelandoftheElectricMonsters

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 30, 2012 8:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Here's another with more tracks
http://archive.org/details/JNN021-Djet-Orphictales

I have noticed that some of their albums don't do this, so maybe the problem lies with the original upload not the player?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 9:52am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hey, these is a *great* little bug you've found.
i can see the issue -- it's in the "playlist assembly" part (not really the player per se)...
working on a fix...

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 30, 2012 10:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

cool

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 10:14am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hmm, these items actually seem pretty botched up...
they are showing "derivatives of derivatives" which was a buggy period
and we prevent that from happening now.

i'm fixing these 2 items (no code changes)
and will try to find out how prevalent this is and see if i can globally fix affected items...

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 30, 2012 10:46am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok. if i find anymore, do you want me to post them here?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 11:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

sure, feel free to. give me about a day from now of "headstart" to get as many items as i can fixed up first. i'm about to take my robot of its leash to try to clean up some portion of 1.1M items... 8-)


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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 30, 2012 12:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Good luck with that :)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 2:32pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thanks! (you knew i'll need it ;-)

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Poster: mr_unsheep Date: Mar 31, 2012 2:56am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i have every confidence in you! this is a great website, btw. lovely idea. i would not have discovered so much great music if i had to pay for it, so thanks :)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 18, 2012 10:46am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, i've fixed the cosmetic issue of the text overlaying at bottom of the player, oops.

cant repro w/ chrome here (macos) the tracks vanishing for that item once play starts. are you win OS?

-tracey
PS: thanks for your excellent report w/ the great screencap, too. the big crayon-y red made me smile 8-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffmonoceros Date: Jan 30, 2012 5:52am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

looks and works fine in opera to me. Is it possible to share on networks? that will be cool, lioke soundcloud.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 2:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

oh, great, thanks!
(hadn't heard a whole lot of comments on opera experience).

what kind of sharing might that entail, do you know -- the something like soundcloud?

-tracey, staff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffmonoceros Date: Feb 11, 2012 3:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

well in fact if you put a link to a mp3 file facebook show a player, so that's it. Maybe in a future a link to the entire release and the cover of the album? but not really necessary, it is good this way!

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Poster: QLiteraryMuseumPodQcast Date: Jan 20, 2012 10:12am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I found a problem in the file, but I don´t know why is it.
My file has 0:39, but here appears cut to 0:34?
http://www.archive.org/details/SolarMyriamSpiritualFlamenco

By the way, I can´t to embed the code in my website.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 20, 2012 10:22am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

...but when you click play, it should bump right back to 0:39.
(does for me on chrome).

the issue is we try to detect the duration of each audio/video item
before the playback starts at all, so we can display a time duration
on the progress bar. sometimes that detected duration is slightly off
by a small percent, like in this item's case unfortunately.

but if you play it back, you should see all 39 seconds play!


can you say more about your embed issues?
-tracey

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Poster: old78collector Date: Jan 20, 2012 12:53pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

This is exactly the problem I'm having. The initial duration estimate is several seconds short, but in my case it is not corrected when play starts.

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Poster: QLiteraryMuseumPodQcast Date: Jan 20, 2012 11:27am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Tracey, Thanks your for your quick reply. I feel this lost at the end of the piece and I understand the difficult perhaps is the changing of format and I am sad because the virtual zapateado is broken.

About of embedded code I couldn´t to put in my website because it appears in the top of the page non in the place indicated and like a player.

By the way, I try to put an image in the page of Spiritual Flamenco but is not possible, I don´t find as to do it or I don´t understand as to name "identifier.jpg (where identifier is your item's identifier name)" I put
SolarMyriamSpiritualFlamencoPodQcast0.jpg but don´t appear the format JPEG in the metadata editor but the audio.
Thanks again for your support,
The Best, Myriam

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 21, 2012 1:22am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hmm, for me, all 39 seconds of this play for me, even though the playlist says 34 seconds and so does the "controlbar" / play / volume area of the player -- until the playback starts (then it jumps to 39 seconds)

http://www.archive.org/details/SolarMyriamSpiritualFlamenco

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Poster: QLiteraryMuseumPodQcast Date: Jan 21, 2012 6:06am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi Tracey, ´0:34´or 0:39´that is the question. I listen again 0:34 and could to jump until 0:39´I don´t doubt but if you listen my original file MP3 you listen the end.
I think that it is a problem of file formats.
Thanks again fot your support.
Have a nive week end, Myriam

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 8, 2012 1:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Myriam,

I believe this is now fixed.
I reproduced your excellent and patiently persistent bug report and pushed live a fix. Your item is now properly showing "39" in the playlists in all situations (before playback) and also "39" during playback in all situations (and thus our new player isn't cutting it off at "34" seconds like it was before).

so sorry about that, and thanks for helping to make Archive a better place!
best regards,
-tracey

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Poster: QLiteraryMuseumPodQcast Date: Mar 8, 2012 1:54pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Tracey, You are wonderful and I am very happy. Thanks you very much by your patience, job and good to make with this piece. You are very big and it is give greatness to Internet Archive. The Best for you, Myriam

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 8, 2012 2:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hooray! (group hug 8-)

glad to have this bad bug fixed!

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Poster: QLiteraryMuseumPodQcast Date: Mar 8, 2012 3:09pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

¡Tks again Tracey!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 7:46pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

well, sh***********t 8-)
i suddenly seem able to reproduce what you've been patiently been reporting when i force to flash -- and i see the issue. the "ogg" file is the "derivative" from the "original" file which is the "mp3". oddly, the "ogg" is coming up as 34 seconds; the "mp3" as 39 seconds.

we prioritizing "derivative" times, and thus using 34 seconds. so if you're playing the mp3, you're *INDEED* getting cutoff ~5 seconds early, since it's treating the "duration" of 34 seconds as "stop after 34 seconds".

still looking how to uncode myself out of this nice little paper bag that i've gotten into.... 8-)

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Poster: zenoooo Date: Apr 8, 2012 11:30am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Microsoft Windows 7 - 64 bit edition — Internet Explorer 8: For what ever reason I am now not able to download episodes (gunsmoke) to real player. I believe this happened shortly after I received "You Are Now Using Our New Video/Audio Player". Any help would be appreciated. I am but much of a neophyte so not to technical please.

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Poster: videl_99 Date: Feb 26, 2012 2:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I would like to embed audio to a blogsite...the long black play banner is fine and works well, BUT there is a huge blank blue square below and nothing can be place there. Could this disappear?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 5:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

you certainly can. did you see the www.archive.org/help/audio.php page yet?
i *did* see a win7 machine look a bit funny w/a "vertical gap" for IE7/IE8 (and thus needs to run w/ flash plugin to show the video/audio).

other than that, it sounds like maybe you're using either a video-style embed or an audio item w/ the playlist option on but maybe only 1 audio file in the list?

do you have a link for me?
-tracey

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Poster: zellco321 Date: Jan 26, 2012 5:40pm
Forum: movies Subject: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

When looking at The 9/11 Television archive. it also happens to be extraordinary. Since the archive went online late last summer I have noticed all of the videos of programs from before 7:00 A.M Tuesday 9/11/2001 do not play. When trying to play the video a message reading: "The video could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported"

It seems very disappointing and very very strange that the thumbnails for the videos are online but yet they are not view able. I think the viewers of this very find website would like to see this issue fixed.

Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 26, 2012 5:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

before 7am Eastern Daylight Time, you mean, right?
yes, that is by design since we handpicked a specific time range
to make "light" for this special TV collection

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Poster: porpoisemouth Date: Jan 26, 2012 6:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

I believe what zellco321 is asking is why is the file apparently broken? I tried it out of curiosity and it will not stream or download in any format or new or old players.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 26, 2012 6:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

and i answered it! 8-)

basically before 8am on 9/11 we haven't made public and never did.
after 8am should be fine and plays, etc.

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Poster: porpoisemouth Date: Jan 26, 2012 6:51pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

Forgive me but then what is the point of having the item there at all if it is not viewable?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 26, 2012 6:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

well, i implemented it but didn't design most of it or decide upon the content.

you'll note some other shows in other channels that seem less news oriented are also not viewable, too.

it's just kind of a bit of tradeoffs in showing what we archived, and what we felt we could make public, etc.


I do get both of your points and concern, of course, though, no doubt about that.

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Poster: zellco321 Date: Jan 31, 2012 6:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Pre 9/11 Videos un view able on http://www.archive.org/details/911

Let me say I totally agree with porpoisemouth.

I do recall about four or five years ago when the PRE 9/11 coverage was up on this website I was able to watch the coverage from even the day before the attacks.
I believe to Capture the whole picture of how 9/11 was covered it is prudent for the PRE 9/11 coverage to be up working online for viewing. I still find it very strange that yet the thumbnails are online the video almost but does not play.

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Poster: flowney Date: Jul 8, 2012 12:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Good stuff! Keep up the good work.

One thing I would like to see the archive do is to create new, higher resolution versions of film footage. We can always down sample but should not up-sample. So, instead of 320x240 or 640x480, shoot for a minimum of 1280x960. Using professional gear that will create a hi-res version of every frame could lead to community restoration efforts to repair the raveges of time digitally.

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Poster: W.A. films Date: Aug 6, 2012 6:32pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi
Keep up with this good stuff, started to watch Alfred Hichcocks the sorcerer but no sound after 2 minutes. I've got stuff to upload but i have'nt got rights But working on it. Love looking at old stuff good stories.

cheers
John

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jul 17, 2012 11:52am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

it mostly depends on the source uploaded.
we mostly haven't been getting HD uploads, although that is slowly starting to change.

we *do* have a way an uploader now can upload an HD mp4 file where our existing A/V player will show a SD/HD toggle (defaulting to SD) to at least allow the viewer to pick a higher quality for some items.

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Poster: Kirbstone Date: Aug 24, 2012 12:49pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: use of Scott Joplin's Maple Leaf Rag

I'm using this great piece in a YouTube video comparing U.S. economy with the fated Titanic upon which Joplin's piece was in the orchestra's playlist. I realize it's a public domain piece, still I'd like to say "Used with permission" if that's alright. Thanks for a response.

Best,

Kirbstone

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Poster: flowney Date: Jul 17, 2012 12:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Please encourage uploaders to provide the highest quality source files possible, SD or HD. This means high bit rate, high frame rate and larger window sizes. For SD, that means 320x240 is not as good as 640x480 which is not as good as 1280x960. For HD, that means 480p is not as good as 720p is not as good as 1080p. Many of the archives holdings were done when 320x240 was the best that could be done digitally. Times have changed, we can do better. Re-digitizing is usually the only way.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jul 17, 2012 12:26pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

we always keep the originals, and for nearly all items, the original qualities are fully available/downloadable.

in terms of the "inline video player", we have periodically recomputed our .mp4 and .ogv files (which are now at 480 vertical (640 horizontal, depending on aspect) for .mp4; and 300 vertical (400 horizontal) for .ogv

we sometimes get grief for touching older items, so we're a bit cautious about how often we "re derive".

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Poster: شIATAFL Date: Jul 25, 2012 3:14am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The sound is fantastic.I started to listen to the Qur'an aiming to finish it twice .. Here is the plan : You may need a copy of the Qur'an to see the pages.
The Qur'an has 600 pages approx ( exactly 604). If you divide it on 30 days, that is 20 pages per day.
It sound too much? that is difficult to do right? But if divide it on the 5 prayers a day, it gets easier.
If you read 4 pages after every Salah (prayer) in Ramadan then you have completed the Qur'an.
furthermore, if you want to complete the Qur'an twice, you read 4 pages before and after Salah.

Other link with text and translation to almost every language, that is if you want to go deep inside Qur'an and its meaning. التعمق في دراسة القرآن www.tanzil.net
start http://tanzil.net/#1:1

www.arabiclistening.blogspot.com

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Poster: Joe Weir Date: Jun 21, 2012 7:19am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

See attachment

Attachment: Capture.PNG

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 21, 2012 11:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

is that typical for most videos on our site?
do you have a browser that does not support HTML5 [video] tags -- it seems like maybe you do. all modern browsers should handle either h.264 or ogg!

you can also try the "i prefer flash" under the click-to-play area and then you'll get a flash-plugin playback of our h.264 (mp4) derivative.

if you are using a browser that neither supports HTML5 [video] tag *and* doesn't have flash plugin or its disabled, then you're kinda on your own and would have to click an mp4 link to play/download yourself.... 8-)


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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffRoxbury Community College Library Date: Feb 8, 2012 7:21am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've uploaded the below video, and have issues with different browsers. I'm running Windows 7 Professional.

http://www.archive.org/details/InTheSpotlightWithLennyDurantpart1

IE9: New player w/HTML5= = "The video could not be loaded, either because the server or the network failed, or because the format is not supported." New player w/Flash = Sound, no picture. Firefox 10: New player w/Flash = Sound, no picture. HTML5 is fine. Chrome 9: New player w/Flash = sound, no picture. HTML5 is fine.

The "normal" player has sound, but no picture in all three browsers.

Thank you for all your work in getting this new player up and running.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 8, 2012 8:43am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

fixing your item now...
everything should work in a few hours...
issue is uploading a not entirely "universal" shall we say, mp4 file...
jeff kaplan can give you more details...
-tracey, staff

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Poster: ann.matsuuchi Date: Jun 2, 2012 6:00pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm having a similar problem with the video not displaying in the video/audio player: http://archive.org/details/TeachingLearningAndTheGooglizationOfEverythingWithDr.Siva

No sound or picture in any browser used.
Running Win7; different browsers: Firefox 12, Chrome

The video files that were uploaded were .avi and mp4 > would it be better to convert it to a preferable file format and then re-upload it? Might the video player work then?
Many thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 13, 2012 3:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

works fine for me on chrome (mac) as a [video] tag.

moov atom isn't at the back (very good! 8-)
and the rest of the video and audio profile as well as pixel space.

however, seems like flash plugin is not happy with the .mp4!

looks like made w/ HandBrake?

Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Googlization_LaGuardia_combined_C.mp4':
Metadata:
major_brand : mp42
minor_version : 0
compatible_brands: mp42isomavc1
creation_time : 2012-05-31 18:58:12
encoder : HandBrake 0.9.6 2012022800
Duration: 01:27:48.26, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 548 kb/s
Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (Main) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p, 710x478 [SAR 1:1 DAR 355:239], 383 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn, 180k tbc
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maybe there is some tickable option to make it work w/ flash plugin?
i suggest maybe trying a few 10 second videos and many test encodes
and go with the one that works 8-)

i can alternatively suggest ffmpeg and even our build script we use to compile it, and process we use to make our .mp4. You can see how we use ffmpeg and qt-faststart to make an .mp4 here:

http://blog.archive.org/2011/06/04/improved-h-264-derivatives/


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Poster: Holyguy Date: Feb 3, 2012 3:26am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The entire file name does not appear for each song in the player. The old player, no matter how long the file name is, gets fully displayed.

I hope, if the new one replaces the old, that adjustments can be made, so that no matter how long a file name is, it will still display correctly.

Thanks so much for all your dedication and hard work.

Yours truly,
Holyguy

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Poster: pq_ribber Date: Jul 25, 2012 10:04am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Shuts off a whole lot when playing audio. A whole lot. Using a PC with Windows 7/chrome and this is chronic. The video player is very wonky with moving the scan bar and changing the volume, as well. FAIL.

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Poster: BlewJ Date: Mar 14, 2012 5:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I can't get the new audio player to play. Often, when I go to share on Facebook, the symbol of the Corinthian Columns disappears so there is no option (other than copy/paste the link). But pressing play is the more... pressing issue. It doesn't start the music. Others have said it works fine, but here is where I currently am having the problem:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-05-09.mtx.seamons.98168.flac16

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Poster: Schaps Date: Jan 25, 2012 6:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The player seems to function perfectly well for my needs - using:
Internet Explorer

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Poster: Director52 Date: Jan 31, 2012 7:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've read most of the postings here.
I have to assume that most of us, if not all are using Microsoft, well I'm running W7 with IE9, now back in early December 2011, Micorsoft kindly did one of their MAJOR updates, YEAH, we all know what damage these IMPROVEMENTS do?
OK, I could not install any Adobe Product, so NO FLASH, well that's a huge chunk of web-sites that weren't worth opening. Right I fixed that after 6 weeks of Calls to the big M and Adobe, neither could help me and yet they created this. NOW, please realise that Blogs and COMPLAINTS in general could be found most places on the Net about these problems.
Well 3 days ago Mr Gates entered my computer AGAIN and I lost scripting or at least a portion of it and sound on my Media 11.
Back to Microsoft, YUP, another couple of hours, OK, wait for it folks. Go to Microsoft FixIt Centre On Line, you will need a Live ID account. I only had to run 2 FixIt plans, my IE9 is working the way it should.
I know this is a TAD long, but I had to keep it light.
Best of Luck!

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Poster: Director52 Date: Jan 31, 2012 8:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Sorry i missed the most important piece.
This new player here works PERFECTLY, instant download, no lag or breaks.
I don't believe it would have worked if I had not fixed Internet Explorer.
Firefox is no better at that the moment.
Google Chrome is probably the most stable IE at this time.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 2:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, glad to hear you found some crafty way to fix some IE badness.
can you post more comments on the firefox issues you are seeing?

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Poster: padge Date: Apr 18, 2012 1:44pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I use Internet Archive for mostly audio. I prefer the old player. Fior me it responds faster, and I like the little red arrow pointing to the track thats being played. I don't like the way the new one rolls up when you click on a track. The new player takes sseveral seconds to start playing. If I could choose which one to use as the default player for me it would be the old one everytime. .......padge...

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Poster: KVR OSC Date: Oct 14, 2012 8:14pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks for the new player, but playlist order (track number) as set in the Metadata editor has no effect at all which is sorely missed.

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Poster: littonracker Date: Jun 14, 2012 1:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Two for two as far as not working. Who was this player designed for, Helen Keller??

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 14, 2012 1:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

whatcha running for OS/browser?

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Poster: littonracker Date: Jun 14, 2012 1:37pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Well, 3 for 3. What in hell is going on? Why do you want people to use your player when it appears it doesn't work.

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Poster: zman58 Date: Apr 8, 2012 8:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I just joined the Internet archive and started using the new audio player. It is working great and I like the way you have the user interface set up.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Apr 8, 2012 8:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Good to hear. Welcome to the archive and thank you.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafffabián racca Date: Feb 5, 2012 4:56pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi Archive.org friends, I like how it look the new player, but I'don't see the embed possibilities in this new format. Exists options for embedding the player in wordpress and facebook?
thanks from Argentina.
Fabian

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 7, 2012 7:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

so for facebook, it's best to copy in the /details/ url.

You *can* also copy in the /embed/ url, and if someone clicks on it in facebook, it will open a new tab w/ the player maxed out to entire page.


You can put our /embed/ codes/urls (they look like <iframe src="...> into a wordpress blog but only if it is "self-hosted" and not on wordpress.com (they don't allow <iframe> tags)

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Poster: srsamuels Date: Mar 28, 2012 4:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm using OE8 to stream GD shows. As of last week I do not get the song names anymore on the player (as I did) - just the track file names (e.g., gd[year]...etc). Is this the result of smonthing I did or is it a "bug" in your player?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 5:07pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i think you meant to write (MS)"IE8", right?

so this show does *not* show you the filenames like it does for me on IE8 (Win7)?

http://archive.org/details/gd79-09-04.sbd.clugston.9452.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: srsamuels Date: Mar 28, 2012 8:30pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks for the correction. It is IE8 - using WindowsXP. It does show the filenames for each track, as in the link you supplied. However, it used to show the song titles, which makes it easier to pick and choose what to listen to. One day it stopped doing than and started showing file names. Just wondering if there is some way for me to get the song titles to show in the player?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 11:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Bleah now Im the one with the typo 8-)
I meant song titles not filenames. I will try IE6 on XP
And IE8 on win7 on friday

But the playlist is setup on server side so I cant really figure out how'd you see *filenames* in the playlist for the above item, hmmmm....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 29, 2012 1:14am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ah! well that was baffling.
ok, i figured out the issue and once again, it wasn't due to the new player, but due to some changes maybe 2 weeks ago made under the hood for setting up items before they get their file lists transformed into a player playlist.

i've fixed it and pushed it live.
thanks for letting us know about this and helping us improve the Archive!
(and sorry for the crappy names for those 1-2 weeks ;-)

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Poster: srsamuels Date: Mar 29, 2012 5:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Excellent. Thanks for fixing that.

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Poster: jankratochvil Date: Mar 5, 2012 11:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: WebM?

http://www.archive.org/details/wais_supercomputer_parc
There is .ogv but no .webm.
Great it is at least playable on freely distributable OSes but still WebM (VP8 codec) would bring better quality/bandwidth than OGV (Theora codec).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Mar 6, 2012 6:57am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

thanks for your feedback. WebM format has been discussed as one of the formats that may be included in the future.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 5:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

exactly. we've dev-ed up the entire pipeline and have QA-ed it as a replacement for Ogg Theora (though I'm not sure it's that much better than Ogg Theora, YMMV) to success. we're awaiting the climate and other non-technical factors before we move to it.

the negative is the last time we did a very large sampling and testing, it clocked in at 3.5x longer to transcode compared to x264 (.mp4) and the x264 time is similar to the .ogv encoding time.

-tracey

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Poster: rlneva1941 Date: Mar 9, 2012 3:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

This is one strange blog site. This in no reply to anyone's posting, just a reply to the horrible hook up there is here with all the spooling of the films. I refuse to watch them and sit and watch that infernal circle spool! This is 2012 and there are much more reliable and user friendly film viewing available, even on this site but that spooling BS has got to go or I go and I have been staying away because of it!

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Poster: rlneva1941 Date: Mar 9, 2012 7:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

Your method of showing films sucks big time! Who wants to sit and watch the film spool for god knows how long? I sure as hell will not waste my time. Get a modern projector will you please?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 11:54am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

actually, another post reminded me of this.
you may be getting a small representative set of items that are non-ideally encoded .mp4 "original file" variants.

do you have an identifier you find "sucks big time"? (it's the thing after /details/[THIS THING] )

meanwhile, try this short play length item (but same encoded size) and see if it is much better than what you're seeing now, behaviour-wise:

http://www.archive.org/details/commute

thanks!
-tracey

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Poster: BGDY1974 Date: Mar 20, 2012 5:47pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

I am having issues with the new audio player when I try to stream soundboard recordings by the Grateful Dead. I am on a Mac and using the most updated Firefox browser and I also have the most updated version of Flash.

When I click play, the "archive" icon (the architectural design with the columns) moves from the player all the way page right; so much so that a scrolling area appears on the bottom to move there. No matter what song I choose or if I just click play, the same thing happens. As of today, I cannot play a soundboard recording from the archive site.

This problem has persisted since the new audio player was introduced. However, when I use a PC, there is no problem at all.

(With audience recordings, there is no issue.)

Any help would be really appreciated! All best.

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Poster: frozenwombat Date: Mar 22, 2012 7:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

I am also having trouble streaming Grateful Dead soundboard recordings. They won't play. I am on a PC using windows 7 with Firefox, and have the Quicktime plugin installed. Audience recordings play, just soundboard recordings do not.

Other artists work as well.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 5:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

sorry about that! indeed we had a bug for firefox and Grateful Dead soundboards. fixed as of sunday morning.

would you mind trying again and letting us know?

SORRY for that oversight and inconvenience
(it was actually something external to our new player -- our Ogg Vorbis files had something wrong with them, since fixed)

-tracey

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Poster: xubuntu11.04 Date: Apr 3, 2012 5:54pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

It always is what it is. It works when it works. Today the player is just fine for streaming the Dead in Chicago, Feb., 1981. No problems-sounded great. Glitches and bugs are systemic. It's either the client machine, the server machine, something in between, or any combination of the three. I personally believe most problems are old, buggy, or faulty installed software on client machines. I could be wrong. but finding it only determines the source and the conditions. Thanks for a really great website.

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Poster: Max Reiner Date: Apr 25, 2012 12:41am
Forum: movies Subject: Mufflled Audio. Hard to Understand. Lacks Highs

You folks did fix to sequencing. So it is nice to hear one show after the other. However the audio quality is uneven. I'm listening to Casey, Crime Photographer. And the sound quality is muffled. I have an equalizer and have upped the midrange and high frequencies. But it is still muffled. The problem is not on my end because I use the equalizer to bring make other programs more intelligible.

In contrast, 21s Precinct is excellent audio quality.

After all your hard work, it is too bad that the audio quality is so bad on Casey, Crime Photographer. Could you please fix it on your end?

Thank You!

Max Reiner

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 5:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

sorry about that! indeed we had a bug for firefox and Grateful Dead soundboards. fixed as of sunday morning.

would you mind trying again and letting us know?

SORRY for that oversight and inconvenience
(it was actually something external to our new player -- our Ogg Vorbis files had something wrong with them, since fixed)

-tracey

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Poster: BGDY1974 Date: Mar 31, 2012 5:20am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

Hi Tracey, thank you for addressing the Firefox/GD Soundboard bug!! The player now works for both GD audience and soundboard recordings.

Thanks so much!!

All best,
BGDY

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 31, 2012 3:51pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

phew, yay!
yah, that kinda stunk to bork up the best-sounding GD audio (lol)
sorry bout that!

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: Jun 17, 2012 10:30am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

though,good audience tapes allow the crowds ...voice and reacTions to be feLt....giVing a(with eyes shut,my head straight and a sMiLe of couRse..loL)...sensation of beIng hoMe agaIn in phIL ZoNe......gotta LoVe the GraTefuL Dead!~NFA~

*Head chaNge soLd sepRateLy...;)*

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 12, 2012 11:09am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: WebM?

i'd guess it's the same for you with the old vs. new video player.
if you don't have the bandwidth, you don't have the bandwidth (and thus things need to buffer / "spool").

since we only make one "derivative" / user accessible format size/quality, for each uploaded video, it's a fine line/tradeoff -- if we make our videos too small, we get complaints that they don't "look good", especially noticeable in fullscreen mode. other sites make 2-5 video qualities and then they can hook in frame dropping metrics to quickly determine what the best quality is for the "available bandwidth" at the time of the request for the client.

-tracey

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Poster: watconcord Date: Mar 15, 2012 8:41am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new audio player had been working fine with Thai language for several months, until this week that I found out the Thai titles on each track does not display properly. The only way to make it display the Thai title is by switching to the old player. My constraint is the embeded code of the player comes in only the new player format, no matter if I switch it back to the old player or not. http://www.archive.org/details/DhammaTalksByDr.SanongVorraUrai

Could archive.org look into this?

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Poster: clarksblues Date: Feb 28, 2012 8:42am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Great Sound!

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Poster: jspen2 Date: May 30, 2012 11:01am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

the Internet Archive has always been the one place on the internet I could come with my older operating systems and still access fine content, including video... but of late even you folks make it hard for us to access anything unless we have all the latest gadgets and gizmos. This is a real drag!
Here in Illinois we just passed new legislation that makes it impossible for us to dispose of aging hardware and outdated digital equipment anywhere but at a special recycling center where "de"manufacturing takes place in order to "harvest" useful material from old electronics. Landfills are spilling over with obsolete electronics and computers. In order to stay in compliance with State law it behooves one to make their older configurations work with today's intenet. Please help us to do just that. I am unable to watch content with your new viewer on any of my Macintosh OS configurations that go back beyond Leopard, OSX 10.5 This review was written using Mac OSX 10.3.9 Panther on a B & W Power Mac G3, still a stunningly useful computer. If only you internet archivists would live up to your name.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 11:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

we work on the last power PC version of firefox, version 3.6, which is now over 3+ years old, and should work on computers all the way back to 2004!

so please give firefox a try and I believe that you will find you have more years with your machine.

we can't prioritize extremely old hardware -- that detracts from the ever modernizing and improving tech of the evolving software, OS, and hardware markets. so hopefully we can find a happy medium somewhere.

we are committed as of now to try to support firefox v3.6...

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Poster: andytooj Date: Mar 21, 2012 5:36am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm having a recurring issue with the new player, where I can't get anything to play. This is using Mac OS X 10.5.8 and Firefox. I press the "play" button and it cycles through to "pause" as if playing, then back to play with nothing happening. If I press the play button multiple times rapidly, I can get the archive logo to show up in the upper right of the player (with embed codes, etc) and a little tracker appears to show play time, but both only show for a second and then disappear. It's killing me because I am so excited to see the issues with the old player resolved, but can't get this one to work. Any advice?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 10:43am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

we fixed a bug with GratefulDead soundboards over the weekend.
do those happen to be the items you were having issues with?

otherwise, you can help us by visiting:
http://archive.org/details/testplay

and paste the results to a reply so we can try to see if we can deduce anything, etc...

meanwhile, i'll try to find someone with "leopard" OS here and try to reproduce.
maybe you could upgrade (if you aren't already) to latest Firefox (v11) just in case there's an issue there, too?

sorry for the troubles,
-tracey

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Poster: Nizar Ajeebi Date: Jul 6, 2012 2:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I really like the new player. Also, I like the design too.

but there are some stuff that I hope you do something about it

1- When I play the first audio file and ends. it stops. it doesn't shift to the next audio file. which I really don't like that. I want it to shift to the next audio file and so on.

2- I hope you add the option of repeating.

3- I hope you make it scroll down. It really doesn't. When I scroll down with the mouse, the page scrolls down but the player doesn't. and when I say scroll down I mean with that thing that's between the right click and the left click on the mouse, which I think it's called "mouse wheel" but im not sure.

sorry for my bad English :/


This post was modified by Nizar Ajeebi on 2012-07-06 21:59:33

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jul 17, 2012 12:04pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

this depends a lot on the browser and setup.

1) our player does auto-advance. some setups can have some minor issues with that, but our code does advance to the next track/video

2) we could add that sometime in the future

3) it pretty well does autoscroll down now. if you are using an iOS device (iPad or iPhone, etc.) then we have it setup for "one finger scroll" when you place your finger in the track listing

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Poster: Oren_Ishee Date: Aug 24, 2012 5:03am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi, nice work on the new browser, I think it's great when I'm on a desktop PC. It seems to work fine when I'm on Firefox or Chrome. However, when I try to use it on any of my Apple products (iPod Touch or iPad), it suffers from the same problem that Nizar mentions, above -- i.e., it doesn't automatically skip to the next song. When I take the device out of 'sleep mode' (where the display is turned off but sound is still coming through), it then advances.

I spend most of my day working with my iPod in my pocket, and can't take it out at every song to advance it by hand. It would mean a lot to me if this was remedied. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong on my end...?

Your help is appreciated!

Keep up the excellent work!

Oren

This post was modified by Oren_Ishee on 2012-08-24 12:03:30

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 10:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

this should be fixed now, by the way

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Poster: Nizar Ajeebi Date: Aug 24, 2012 4:02am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

my name is Nizar not Nazir -__________________-

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Poster: Oren_Ishee Date: Aug 24, 2012 5:04am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Apologies! *fixed*

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Oct 19, 2012 1:06am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i'd like to go back to the old audio player, have to
hit control to keep from going back to beginning of show or cutting out; some shows play one after the other with no problem; i'm not sure how to start a thread so you can copy somewhere more apprpriate
summary:
REINSTATE OLD PLAYER

can't figure out how to contact site directly, either
thenks, Larry

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Poster: EliJean Date: Feb 29, 2012 11:46am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Trying to view these videos is a challenge even more than the context itself.

http://www.archive.org/details/MIT6.00F08

When the instructor displays his desktop, I am unable to make out any characters he types on his screen due to poor video quality. Would this be that the video isn't in HD format, or it is in HD quality but the player can't render HD?

This isn't a projected image on a projector screen, the video switches to a video screen capture.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 5:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

it's neither the old player nor the new player that's the issue.
both would show the same quality, same thing.

however, the .mp4 for these were derived some time ago and we've since
made our .mp4 derivatives be quadruple the pixel count (320x240 ==> 640x480) and ~double the video bitrate (~512kb/s to ~700kb/s).

so i'll rederive all the MIT videos now and that will help for just about everything that doesn't play ogv natively (which is *mostly* firefox).

-tracey, staff

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Poster: EliJean Date: Mar 7, 2012 6:19am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks, Tracey!

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Poster: Mega Zit Date: Nov 5, 2012 2:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I don’t have an internet connection so codecs are a real pain plus I’m still on Windows ME so bog standard mpeg 1 or 2 are best for me. Every thing in MP4 or OGG has to be converted (thank you all at ffmpeg) before I can even watch it

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Nov 5, 2012 8:27am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Ok no internet connection would mean no archive.org site and no forums for you... 8-)

You cant install a flash plugin on windows ME?
Then you should be all set...

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Poster: alchemusic Date: Mar 30, 2012 12:40am
Forum: movies Subject: Song won't play! :?(

I can't seem to get the new player to play the track "Little You" from this collection of songs:

http://archive.org/details/WhatICouldNeverSay

I'm running Firefox 11.0 with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 on an early 2011 quadcore MacBook Pro. However, others have reported the same problem to me, including PC users.

When I click the track, the button turns from a "play" icon to a "pause" icon, then back again within a fraction of a second, as though it has given up on trying to play the track. I've tried re-uploading it to no avail.

Hope this helps.

I love Archive.org - it's the greatest site on the entire internet! Keep being awesome, guys. :?)

~ Peter

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 12:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Song won't play! :?(

Looks like an easy one
Needs a derive which i just
Did for some missing ogg derivs

Should be fixed w/i the hour 8-)

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Poster: alchemusic Date: Mar 30, 2012 1:13am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Song won't play! :?(

WOW!!!!

You are AMAZING!!!!

:D :D :D

Thank you. And max respect! ;?)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 30, 2012 2:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Song won't play! :?(

aww, thanks! 8-)
wish we had a better way to auto-find and fix items like these!

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Poster: mizzmaddie Date: Apr 29, 2012 4:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I just viewed all 6 episodes of Quatermass and the Pit using Chrome on an iMac running OS X 10.7.3. My broadband connection averages 2.5mbps. The player worked beautifully in full-screen mode. Not a hitch.

Nice work folks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Apr 29, 2012 4:41pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

That's great to hear. Thanks for the feedback.

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Poster: FBC Hallowell Date: Feb 8, 2012 6:10am
Forum: movies Subject: Trouble embedding

I too am having trouble getting an embed code. I did wipe by browser cache but am still only seeing a morphed version of the facebook and twitter icons but no place to copy an embed code. HELP!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 8, 2012 7:05am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Trouble embedding

what browser and OS are you on? can you post a screen shot please.

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Poster: FBC Hallowell Date: Feb 9, 2012 6:27am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Trouble embedding

I have Windows 7 and am using explorer. I've attached the screen shot

Attachment: internet_archive.JPG

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 10, 2012 5:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Trouble embedding

OK, the fix is live.

can you reply and let me know if there's any issues, still?

thanks!
-tracey

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Poster: FBC Hallowell Date: Feb 11, 2012 11:23am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Trouble embedding

It works now. Thank you!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2012 12:36pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Trouble embedding

thanks for that.

ok, i see the issue, blargh.
it's the dreaded "insertion of an (audio) player into a short vertical height container"...

i've just pushed live a fix for the HTML5 variant,
but from your screen shot (thanks!)
you're using the flash version there,
so it will be at least until end-of-tomorrow (hopefully by end-of-saturday) until I can recompile our flash "sharing" .swf
to work better for those really cramped extreme situations...

thx for your patience and the reporting really helps us get bettah!



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Poster: e_derosa Date: Mar 9, 2012 12:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I was allowed to continue to see my task bar at the bottom and my internet browser tabs in full screen mode while watching:
http://www.archive.org/details/ClassicArithmeticDevelopingPlaceValue

1. Why did that happen?

2. Can you make that a feature (with a user friendly GUI because I really liked it!

Thanks,

Eugene

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 12, 2012 10:32am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

maybe that was browser "presentation mode" style fullscreen (where it stretches the current browser window as big as it can)
mode instead of something more like "native fullscreen" mode which flash can get access to, and *some* browser/OS combos can get access to for the "html5 video tag" (but most are "coming soon" for that feature...)

-tracey

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Poster: Pete Hummers Date: Jan 25, 2012 9:40am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Not sure what to make of the negative posts I'm seeing, except those users seem to be mostly using browsers from the criminals at Apple, Google and Microsoft. On current X86 Debian with Opera 11.60 (I'm not opposed to proprietary software, especially when it works and gives me fine-grained controls over security and privacy) the new player works flawlessly, audio and audio/video, much better than Gnash (Adobe is one of the companies I _don't_ like, again, for privacy and security issues). Is it HTML5?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 10:06am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yes, that should be html5 you are getting.

right, i took a couple days off from the negatives to:
- think a bit before replying
- add a "I prefer flash" link below the player (to appease the flash lovers)

mainly, there seems to be a huge projection of "this is how my world appears" onto "so thus it must be for everyone else, too".
I'm totally sympathetic to users having bad issues and frustration, and dedicated to helping/fixing!

However, the reality of HTML5 vs flash is:
- HTML5 works better on iOS and macos, period, all browsers. flash doesn't have the hardware acceleration/support like it does on windows and it shows, dramatically
- HTML5 works better on linux, more than not, best I can tell
- With a crappy cheap Dell and Win7 here at work, HTML5 in IE9 is better than flash.

So yah, like you, I'm a bit staggered by how extreme some of the "I have issues / don't like the new player" reports are. Trying to sort them out and reproduce what I can!

Thanks for the positive reporting! I was starting to wonder how there could be so few "working for me" posts! 8-)

-tracey



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Poster: petergozz Date: Feb 7, 2012 8:52am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I opted in on this sometime early last year.
I've stayed opted in because it works very well.
System is Debian GNU Linux
Browsers are chromium firefox and epiphany. (mostly)
It works well on all of them. Two different engines beneath these for movies and audio.

The main limitation is my own ADSL(1!) bandwidth.

In fact I usually only watch/listen to the beginning of the files and then directly download (via the http link ) the ogv djvu or whatever seems appropriate.

Thankyou for making this as future proof as possible.



Congrats.
and.. Yeah ! We should say it works and well more often :)



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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 7, 2012 10:35am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks for the info and details! It helps! 8-)
Cheers!

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Poster: MaysPlayce Date: Feb 26, 2012 9:04am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I love the new player! I love the fact that it streams all the way through w/o having to click to the next song. I especially like this feature because when I'm groovin' to a jam and it goes to the next song flawlessly, my groovin' continues flawlessly as well. It sucks when I'm dancing around and then the song ends abruptly.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 26, 2012 9:31am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Yay! That's great to hear.

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Poster: Wolfgang Woehl Date: Sep 26, 2012 3:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Player nice. Just realized after uploading some ogg audio files that those wouldn't play in it. Bummer :)

Anyway, archive.org awesome, thanks for everything!

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2012 7:54am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Using fully updated FF, I get nothing at all from the player. I click play and nothing happens. As a result, I've had to resort to downloading the VBR stream to Foobar and playing it off that, but I'd rather use a player if it worked for me. Any suggestions?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 24, 2012 6:36pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

just pushed a fix, but should only apply to HD videos (rare on our site).
do you have an example archive page that you can relate?

also, you can try visiting this item and paste-ing the results to a reply to this post -- it will help us out! 8-)

http://archive.org/details/testplay

-tracey, staff

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2012 7:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It's audio recordings I can't play. I've tried a number of the Grateful Dead recordings on LMA. This one, just for example:

http://archive.org/details/gd1968-01-17.sbd.jeff.fixed-3927.7995.sbeok.shnf

EDIT: Neither HTML5 nor Flash seems to work. Old player works fine.

Videos seem to play fine, based on the testplay page.

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2012-03-25 02:16:06

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Mar 24, 2012 7:25pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

that example just played for me on mac osx Firefox, chrome and safari. what browser/os combination are you using? have you tried other browsers? just troubleshooting so i appreciate any information you can provide.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 24, 2012 7:42pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Windows 7. Thanks, but I don't want to try other browsers.

EDIT: And just to reiterate: none of the GD recordings I've tried on LMA play using the new player, so it's a software problem not a problem with the recordings.

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2012-03-25 02:42:46

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Mar 24, 2012 10:05pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

just the grateful dead? all or only the streaming ones? what browser are you using in Win7?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 25, 2012 1:55am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I just fired up a real windows7 machine and ran MSIE
in its version9 on that item and it played just fine
(I also put it into version7 and version8 mode and the item plays just fine, too).

So I'm not sure what the issue is...
You're using MSIE on your Win7, I presume?
-tracey, staff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 25, 2012 1:59am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

are you using MSIE version8 with either flash disabled or no flash plugin?
that would certainly not play...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Mar 25, 2012 5:51am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

As I said at the beginning of my query, I'm using FF. Sorry for not reiterating that point.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 25, 2012 11:42am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

AHA!
reproduced *THANK YOU* for re-pointing out FF on Win7.

Now I see *exactly* the issue, and I can fix it cluster-wide in less than one hour.

On it... (the audio file firefox needs to play on windows -- the .ogg, is presently not retrievable....)

wow, fantastic little find and report -- I'm pretty stunned this was busted for this long, SORRY! 8-)

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Poster: johnjbarton Date: Feb 21, 2012 12:10pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player works great in Chrome Browser beta running Andriod ICS version!

Is there any way to play all of the tracks in sequence rather than selecting the next one when the previous one ends?

Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 6:09pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

that sounds more of an issue related to chrome+android than our player, unfortunately.

we will try to stay close to current to jwplayer as new versions come out, and they are trying to stay on top of all mobile devices as best they can, etc...

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Poster: PhaedraBlue Date: Apr 13, 2012 11:19am
Forum: movies Subject: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Firstly, I really enjoy what I find on archive.org. Now for the problems. When you first started your new Beta version player, I could get it to play but it would often have issues with the streaming so I've been using the original.

Today, when I choose the new player, the video starts immediately but the audio becomes null. i.e. there is no audio the button deactivates almost as if it is muted but this seems not to really be the problem. I use internet explorer and windows 7 is my os.

Oh, one other issue, many of the uploads will not play or stream directly for me, I have to download them to my computer and play them with one of my various players. I hope this helps and if you have any suggestions I'd appreciate hearing them.

Thanks again,

Toni from Olympia WA

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Poster: Folkhippy Date: Mar 23, 2012 7:42pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

How is it supposed to play for Macs? I can't get it to do anything. Keep the old player as an option.

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Poster: Horrorwitz Date: Feb 5, 2012 9:31am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I cannot get the embed code to appear even after clearing my browser cache. Also, can player be embedded into Facebook (instead of having the player's webpage linked)? Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 7, 2012 7:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


so you are using it in a blog or site you host and can't get it to show up?

when you click on the "Show me!" links for the relevant kind of item:

http://www.archive.org/help/audio.php
http://www.archive.org/help/video.php

does that not work for you?



so for facebook, it's best to copy in the /details/ url.

You *can* also copy in the /embed/ url, and if someone clicks on it in facebook, it will open a new tab w/ the player maxed out to entire page.

unfortunately, as far as i know there is no way to have facebook use an embed code (can they even inline video player show anything that's *not* uploaded to them directly?) actually, obviously, youtube (the world caters to The King) works, doing some more homework/research...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 10, 2012 5:10pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, just pushed out a fix for flash-variant "new player"
for audio items with less than about 5 playlist entries.

the issue was the "sharing / embed" popup was too cramped to fit everything previously, so a bunch of stuff wasn't showing up.

so maybe give it a try again now and see if you still don't see the
"Click for Embedding Tips and Help"
button that you can click on to get a nice detailed page on how to embed with lots of different variants.

if you are still having problems, can you paste a /details/ link from our site that exhibits the problem still for you?

thanks!
-tracey

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Poster: KVR OSC Date: Oct 14, 2012 8:05pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Great new player, but playlist order (track number) as set in the Metadata editor has no effect at all which is sorely missed.

Hope there for a fix in the next update, cheers.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 14, 2012 10:01pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

the playlist order is based on the alphanumeric order of the file names for the tracks. the metadata editor is where you would enter the names that appear in the playlist. so you might add 01, 02, etc. to the beginning of the file names to establish the order.

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Poster: KVR OSC Date: Oct 14, 2012 10:07pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've tried this without success. It seems once the play order has been set and the metadata written, there is no way to change it in any way through the metadata editor.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 15, 2012 12:03am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

the file names will control the order. point me to an item that is not in the order you want and tell me what order you want them in.

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Poster: KVR OSC Date: Oct 15, 2012 7:05am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Oh I understand, you mean physical file names edited in the file manager, not names as can be edited in the metadata editor. That will anyway work fine I guess, thanks.

But just curious what the edit box for track number is in the metadata editor if it's not the playlist order?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Oct 15, 2012 8:31am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

and then you probably will need to re-derive

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 15, 2012 9:31am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

the edit box is for the track title.

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Poster: KVR OSC Date: Oct 16, 2012 6:13am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

But if the file names should have a number in front in order to sort them, it will look funny to also have the numbered list that comes in the player as well, so any option to switch that off?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 16, 2012 10:09am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

that is where putting the track name in the edit item > change the information > file title comes in. whatever you put in there will be what appears in the playlist

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Poster: KVR OSC Date: Oct 16, 2012 5:09pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Ok got it working by physically renaming the files with a number to get the play order, then removing that number in the metadata editor to avoid double numbering since the player has a default song number system 1,2,3 etc.

So it looks like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-44-retrologue

Thanks for your help.

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Poster: ThinkFunUniversity Date: Feb 15, 2012 12:14am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The aspect ratio is all wrong, especially for widescreen videos.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 7, 2012 5:14pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i'd love to see an example of this 8-)
please paste a /details/ page url/link

we do just fine w/ widescreen, so you may have a semi-random video or collection of videos w/ nonideal pixel ratio encoding...

but let me know, and i can take a look.
-tracey, staff

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Poster: bellhead Date: Jan 28, 2012 8:40pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Nice, but the one thing I'd like to see is an expanded timeline so I could move the slider to a an exact time location w/o having to have superhuman dexterity.
Thank you.

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Poster: Origim Date: Mar 9, 2012 10:29am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

All the embed players have been great, but is there anyway to code a counter into them. By that I mean something that tells me how many times someone used the player. That would be perfect if it's possible

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 12, 2012 10:34am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

in the medium term future we may be able to offer something like that.
but for now, it's not on any "short list" of features quite yet.

we are sorta interested to know where we're being embedded (in a 100% anonymous and totally respectful way) so if we end up moving towards that feature, i'll definitely try to roll your request in with it!

-tracey

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 12, 2012 10:36am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

and of course, there's the overall number of downloads for any given "item" across all embeds as well as our site -- but I think that's not sufficient for what you are asking which is to get a play count for just your embed, etc.

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Poster: Dstone5553 Date: Mar 15, 2012 5:11pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

New played doesn't work for me in Firefox.

Audio won't play.

(((SADNESS)))

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 5:14pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

would you mind trying:
http://archive.org/details/testplay

and paste-ing the results into a reply?

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Poster: KXi Date: Sep 6, 2012 10:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Player won't play. using IE

Don't like this. Too small for old eyesight. Can't use it.

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Poster: BlingFree Date: Apr 1, 2012 11:18am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I like it a lot!

A lowly suggestion... :)

The ability to embed and stream a specific song to social networking sites. Also, donation links before everything else.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:36pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

to embed just one song,
see the bottom of our help page:
http://archive.org/help/audio.php


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Poster: BlingFree Date: Apr 1, 2012 2:00pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thank you for your quick response.

I was thinking more like what happens when you click the Facebook share button except just play a single song from any given set.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:30pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, hopefully at some point we can support something like that.

our old player doesn't really AFAIK so hopefully it will be an improvement with our new player if we can get that working, etc..

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Poster: Ray54 Date: Sep 18, 2012 3:02am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I say only this:is fantastic,my compliments Internet Archive!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Sep 18, 2012 12:11pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thanks for the good news! 8-)

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Poster: Ray54 Date: Sep 20, 2012 11:28am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Is really cool!!!

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Poster: imaginashawn Date: Jul 30, 2012 3:03pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I can't get it to advance in the video like you could the old one. I find that a big drawback. Also, when you return to small screen from full screen, it disables the scroll on the browser. Seems to need polishing before it's a 'finished product'.

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Poster: Hal Erickson Date: Jan 20, 2012 6:22am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It seldom if ever downloads. I wait and wait and all I get is the revolving circle.

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Poster: flmovieboy Date: Jan 20, 2012 5:54pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Me too.

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Poster: gabrielwrathall@googlemail.com Date: Nov 26, 2012 4:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

archive.org should be fixed so i can share stuff, and it can be played directly in facebook, instead of the link taking you to a new page.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 19, 2013 10:59am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

This is mostly working now for archive.org videos -- single video items that I've tried now work fine, and if an item has two or more videos, it will directly facebook "embed" the first video. (Had to make some compromises 8-)).

I can try to get audio working a bit (but it's a bit more complicated since often there are 2+ tracks for items some would like to share). At least I should be able to make the single audio file items work and/or at least play the first track, for archive.org audio items...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Dec 31, 2012 2:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, i dont disagree with you.
i was trying to get the FaceBook / OpenGraph stuff working awhile back but we got sidetracked with other things/priorities...

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Poster: Wyrd 1 Date: Jan 28, 2012 12:46pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Sounds a vast improvement. Cleaner and louder

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Poster: cheesydeadphish Date: Jan 30, 2012 7:56am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Well, it would be great if I could listen to anything. When I go to a file to lizsten to a show, all I see is a blank black screen where the song titles used to be. I can not start listening to anything. Is the site down?

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I GOT BLANK WHITE WITH NO SCROLLING WHEN USING FLASH SWITCHED TO HTM5 AND IT WAS FINE

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 31, 2012 5:49pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

and you have javascript enabled, not seeing the "you need to enable javascript" message?

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Poster: billbbill Date: Apr 20, 2012 3:12am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

this thing will not let me reply to my own post - so previously

"Well I'm talking the LMA - I've noticed some of my uploaded tracks end, well, before the end. It'll then advance to the next track. Not the edit on my end - If I click one of the vbr links it'll open in my default player and play fine.

I'm using a Mac w/Safari and OS X 10.6.8

Track 16 'Women Are Smarter' is a good example of this on this show

http://archive.org/details/sbb2012-03-31.sbd

Not positive if it happens on my pc too."

Works fine on my PC

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Poster: SDCharley Date: Nov 30, 2012 11:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm using a Mac Book Pro running Mountain Lion with the browsers Safari and Chrome. When I click on "columns" logo to access the link to get the embedded player it opens my page in a new tab with no code showing. I can only see the code if I click on "click for embedding tips & tricks"

Why is the code not available when I click on the link that is supposed to show it?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Nov 30, 2012 6:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm guessing this is on an audio item with only 1-3 tracks right?
If so it's due to avail vertical space

We have a new version of player coming in weeks to months and that will fix this issue

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Poster: FroggyMe6581 Date: Mar 22, 2012 8:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hello Tracey,

I don't mind that there is a new player for those who like it on those systems on which it works. But it is discouraging and silly that it says "While I still can..." regarding switching back to the old player. Even if the button is _really_ small, please let us always have the option of going to the old player for older systems. :)

The old video player is one I've seen on other websites too, and I like it a lot. It's very fast and responsive, and works great. The new player doesn't work at all. It just gives me a black screen. I watch the Computer Chronicles all the time on this computer, and don't want to resort to streaming through an external program someday. I'm using Ubuntu 10.4 LTS with the newest version of Firefox 3.6 (from 2012). I've also tried the new video player on a Windows 2000 machine using the newest (2012) version of Firefox 3.6, and it didn't work at all, while the old player worked great as always.

Regarding the audio player, the newer player seems slower and bogged down on an old machine. The old player even works on my Windows 98SE machine running Firefox 2.0.0.20 with Flash 9. The new one certainly doesn't :) Though on that machine, I always choose to stream through WinAmp for a much more fluid experience, but the point I'm making is that the old player even works on really old hardware.

Please uphold your motto of "_Universal_ access to all knowledge", and don't cut off those of us that choose to, or can't, upgrade. I really love this website, and truly hope that it will stay universally useful. It's as simple as always having a link to what works perfectly right now (the old or current, depending on your point of view, audio and video players.)

Peter

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 5:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, as far as I know, v3.6 of firefox is way old on Win2000. maybe it's pegged to a very old version
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
that's from beginning of 2010 best I can tell
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/

if you upgrade win2000 to firefox v11, i'm guessing you'll see quite a different experience.


have you tried clickthe "i prefer flash" link under the video player?
that way you can kind of force our player to try flash *first* and only try html5 after that.

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Poster: Herre Date: Mar 23, 2012 5:36am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

So here I have nothing more to add, I absolutely agree with you Peter, Now it looks a little embarrassing and poor with a player that's just a black screen, while it always worked so nice against Unlike many other website with flashy modern players, I prefer a solid player that always works, like the old one!

Herre

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 3:04pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

http://archive.org/post/416537/new-video-audio-player-opt-in-is-live

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 5:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

well, how about adding what OS/browser you are using?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 3:01pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

firefox v3.6 should be fixed now

http://archive.org/post/416537/new-video-audio-player-opt-in-is-live

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Poster: deadleafucker Date: Jun 12, 2012 8:23am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

New player doesn't work at all and clicking the option to use old player has same results. No flash installed on this box running Linux - ubuntu 8.10 - and Opera 9.64.

The old player used to work and it would be nice if it did so again.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 13, 2012 3:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i don't know opera versions really -- your version *can* play [video] html5 tags?

sounds like a clientside detection issue (jwplayer) or something with our javascript around it (me).
hmmm.....

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Poster: bearpuf Date: Jan 23, 2012 1:38pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I get tired of the circling arrow and it not loading the movie. Sorry for the sarcasm. Unfortunately the player doesn't seem to load the movie even after a couple of minutes.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 12:02pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

can you reply with:

OS + browser combination

a sample /details/ page you are seeing this happen for.

i hope that it's just an item or two that are unluckily on a slow serving box here (ie: not the new player).

you can also try the new "I prefer flash" link below the new player to see if any better...

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Poster: bearpuf Date: Jan 25, 2012 12:44pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm running XP-SP3 with IE 8

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 28, 2012 8:44am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

A lot of recently uploaded films will only play in the new player with HTML5. They are the ones that for some reason only have ogg and mpeg4 formats available.
The spinning circle is very Zen the first time you see it, but it tends to pall after about half an hour...
:-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 31, 2012 7:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, i've added some basic exception tracking and will add more, in case it's a javascript exception, etc.

still happening for you, right? pretty much any archive.org /details/ page or do you have some choice ones for us to try to repro on?

(i can't reproduce it in my various IE8 setups...)
-tracey

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Poster: bearpuf Date: Feb 1, 2012 4:37am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi,

It works! A few days ago I reported that using XP-SP3 with IE8 I would just get a circling arrow for at least 5 minutes. Thanks for your efforts.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 1:56pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

phew! thanks for your comments and getting back to us!

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Poster: cheesydeadphish Date: Jun 21, 2012 4:47pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Would be nice if i could use it. I was listening to a Dead show, and all of a suddent, rigth in the middle of Scarlett Begonias, the music just stops. I go to look at the screen, and all the songs are no longer listed on the irght hand side of the screen, where you would normally select a song and play/pause and so on. What happened?

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Poster: monomoy03 Date: Sep 17, 2012 12:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I appreciate all that you do and have done! I can't make a fair judgement yet. I've tried several times to play the Ratdog show from the Worcester Palladium from Novemeber 10, 1999. Disc 1 plays fine. Disc 2 does not have any sound from it no matter which player I try. A friend who is much more tech savvy than I had the same experience. We were both at this show, not that it matters, but we'd also like to write a review of it. Thanks for any help.

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Poster: monomoy03 Date: Sep 17, 2012 12:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I appreciate all that you do and have done! I can't make a fair judgement yet. I've tried several times to play the Ratdog show from the Worcester Palladium from Novemeber 10, 1999. Disc 1 plays fine. Disc 2 does not have any sound from it no matter which player I try. A friend who is much more tech savvy than I had the same experience. We were both at this show, not that it matters, but we'd also like to write a review of it. Thanks for any help.

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Poster: k9feline Date: Jan 19, 2012 10:02pm
Forum: movies Subject: Much smaller image than the old video/audio player

The image is now much smaller. If nothing can be done about that, than I do not like the new video audio player at all. It's not even faintly any kind of improvement over the old video/audio player. I'd like to have the old audio video player ASAP if I could.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 10:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Much smaller image than the old video/audio player

much smaller -- so you're talking about video, right?
it actually starts out bigger now, at 400x300
(instead of old player starting at 320x240)
for "click to play" state,
and then both, when playing start, bump to 640x480.

maybe that quadruple in size isn't working for you? what OS and browser combo?

the new player also has a fullscreen button that work for:
-chrome
-safari
-IE7, IE8
and for firefox it maxes out to the browser size
and for IE9 it's one or the other (don't have IE9 on right now)

-tracey, staff

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Poster: k9feline Date: Jan 20, 2012 7:34am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Much smaller image than the old video/audio player

My OS/Browser is IE8/WindowsXP.

I do know under the old video audio player, the video image managed to both fill up my screen and leave enough room to see the play/pause button and length of time at the bottom.

The new a/v player just shows to me a small square.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 21, 2012 1:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Much smaller image than the old video/audio player

ah i think i saw and reproduced what you were talking about.
at least i saw it not expanding to the full intended vertical space,
so yes, the video remained much smaller than intended when playing.

that's fixed -- can you let me know if that was indeed the issue you were seeing that things look better now for you? with a 4:3 aspect video, there should be no "black bars" on the sides and it should be playing at 640x480
(and of course one can fullscreen to larger than that..)

sorry about that bug! it was only happening on the flash variant of our new player (which is mostly just IE7 and IE8) so we missed that in testing and QA when we were focusing on functionality and all the little tests/requirements to pass the player into this "beta" opt-in release)

cheers,
-tracey

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Poster: k9feline Date: Jan 21, 2012 10:18am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Much smaller image than the old video/audio player

It is indeed much better now.

Thank you very much! :)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 21, 2012 10:56am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Much smaller image than the old video/audio player

Phew! Yay!

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Poster: Clefkid Date: Jun 20, 2012 2:53pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Curiously, the new player repeatedly only allows me a little more than 12 minutes of play, even though the "counter" on the right of the screen shows that the full content of the show has loaded for streaming. Also, there used to be, at least on some of the show offerings, an option to switch back to the old player, but I don't see that offer any more. Very interesting...

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Poster: Pressing On In Grace Date: Jan 30, 2012 9:26am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Where is the ebed button gone??

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 30, 2012 6:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

You have to find and hit the "archive logo" button (greek columns) now and theres embed info there... If issues you may need to clear your browser cache to get our new flash "share" panel, accessed from that button...

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Poster: Spiritman Date: Mar 14, 2012 11:11pm
Forum: movies Subject: Utter garbage

Nothing happens at all. Nothing. Happens. AT ALL. No, wait, that's not quite true. The button with the "play" icon switches to the "pause" icon for perhaps as much as one full second, then returns to the "play" icon. That's it.

Utter garbage. Less than worthless. Get that crap the f*ck out of here.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 1:43pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Utter garbage


how about you go the f*ck here and help us identify the issue with you, an outlier compared to the majority of our users?

http://www.archive.org/details/testplay

you can post the results to a reply to this post

-tracey, staff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 2:47pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Utter garbage

maybe you were referring to Grateful Dead soundboards, mostly?
they had a bug for ~12 days (when we made the new player the default, Mar13,2012 to Mar25) for firefox (only) where the .ogg formats were not being served properly (the bug technically wasn't due to our new player, but since the old player *only* used .mp3 for firefox (using flash) we didn't notice this issue until last sunday).

it'd be great if this fixed things for you...
-tracey

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Jan 22, 2012 11:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Comments regarding Live Music Archive version of the 'latest' player (as of 1/22/2012 night - sunday).

http://www.archive.org/details/ymbfbb2011-08-22.a

1. There still seems to be a time-duration disparity. The times for the tracks that loads in the player is consistently a few seconds shorter than the actual track length. What happens is that the song will load and begin to play. the 'true' length of the track (ex 4:02 for track 7) will display in the play-bar, but in the tracklist the 'wrong' time will still display. This is pretty consistent for all shows. Just a nature of how the code pulls the player in? I thought one of the 'mid-versions' of this new player fixed this time disparity?

2. Interesting to get rid of the 'share' button and replace it with The Parthenon symbol / button. Not sure if I agree with this. People might just see The Parthenon icon as part of the player / dead space and not know to click on it to get facebook links...

3. I like how the pop-up has the large square Parthenon logo with the text "Full Version at Internet Archive". Clicking it of course goes to the shows permalink details page. Not 100% sure I agree with the word use. Maybe "Click to go to Show Detail Page" .. Who knows, "Full Version at Internet Archive" is pretty concise and gets to the point and name-drops the IA appropriately :)

4. The red-X 'close' button is well placed. better than it was before over the embed text

5. how come the two 'copy' white buttons at the extreme side of the URL boxes was removed? I like those 'one-click' copy buttons. it helps out those of us who are too dumb to know to highlight all / right click and pick 'copy'. especially for long embed codes / file names. I think the 'copy' buttons should come back.

6. The 'Post to Facebook' and 'Post to Twitter' links work great. They auto-fill / set up the show to be posted to fb/twitter very well!

7. At the bottom, you seem to have extra space and it just says "Click for Embedding Tips and Help". I personally think it should say 'Click Here for Embedding Tips and Help' (the 'here' being the key part, since the user can think 'click where? the fb icon? ..' .. I just figured since you have room, make the 'here' more direct so the users click there to get to the help page: http://www.archive.org/help/audio.php?identifier=ymbfbb2011-08-22.a

8. On the above help page http://www.archive.org/help/audio.php?identifier=ymbfbb2011-08-22.a , the header looks to be a different style then the rest of IA (small Parthenon icon, blue text, instead of the usual larger Parthenon and white text. intentional as a hidden help page?)

9. "This allows you to setup a audio player that serves an item from archive.org on another site like a wordrpess, blog, or website. "

minor cleanup to:

"This allows you to setup an audio player that serves an item from archive.org on another site like a wordpress, a blog, or website."

10. At the bottom in "Embed a single specific audio file for item with 2+ audio files:"

the embed text seems to always pull the show jj2008-06-14.mk4, where-as all the other embed examples auto-populate in with the show ID of the show the user was listening to / clicked on the embedded link from. (in this example ymbfbb2011-08-22.a). Intentional? Seems that this bottom embed example would have the same show ID as the rest of them.

11. All the embed 'Show me!' links have at the bottom "return to help" which goes here: http://www.archive.org/help/audio.php instead of the show-specific / URL show ID (ex: http://www.archive.org/help/audio.php?identifier=ymbfbb2011-08-22.a ) is it possible to go back to a show-specific help page since the identifier you are at is somehow pulled in obviously, it is in the URL...

12. the 'and we figure out what additional formats we were able to transcode/"derive" from and then figure out what the audio player can handle). ' ... the 'derive' word is linked to here:

http://www.archive.org/help/derivatives.php

are those the true current audio derivatives created with a .wav file seed ? I thought 64kbps mp3s were not generated anymore. that chart could probably be freshened up.

Also I see no mention of .m3u files or .zip files being generated ... add to table?

13. Farther up in the help page it says: "You can see our new permalink-style embed codes with our new audio player. Hover over the audio area, and when the "bar" appears, look for the (greek columns) Internet Archive logo icon , click it, and then find the "Embed code" line, and copy the code there."

This may need to be updated. You no longer need to 'hover' over the audio area. and what 'bar' is appearing? The greek columns are 100% of the time in the upper right of the player. re-word ?

14. That's all for now! Great work tracey! Just some observations / QA/QC.

-Tyler

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 10:57am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks again Tyler for another spin!

(1) yah, we identify the duration for each A/V file, for what gets used in the track listing and at the start of playback. but that is sometimes off by a bit. no real resolution there, but the player *should* correct it to the right time once it starts loading/playing.

(2) a brewster request -- for more "branding". and unfortunately, we can only easily insert 1 extra button into the "controlbar" area, reliably, so we went the the [|||] logo instead of [>] share

(3) kinda taking cues from brewster chat on that one, re; the text choice...

(4) yay!

(5) it's just that they don't quite "fit" for audio in flash mode. we could make the player wider to accomodate, but we might get some folks not liking more horizontal space to the player? maybe we can revisit this idea once the "old player" is gone (and the world is easier to change)?

(6) yay!

(7) that's a good idea, but would take some time to pull off as I had to render these pngs myself and then recompile the flash portion of the player to include the pngs...

(8) yah, that's an example of our "slimmer / unified" header and colors. it's slowing rolling out in a few pages (eg: http://www.archive.org/details/1Day http://www.archive.org/911 ) and hopefully one of these days it or something similar become more of the default for our pages.

(9) fixed, thx!

(10) yes, it's intentional because not all items will have 2+ A/V files in them and I wanted a "stable example" of an item for each of audio/video to show it in a sensible way. I but a big note for it now to explain there's a different ID 'in play' for that (and now only that) example embed.

(11) great idea -- dunno why it didn't occur to me to do that!! fixed, thx!

(12) yes, you are right about 64kbps -- they have this (not obvious) asterisk where it's noted at the top:
(*) Some derivatives only apply to certain collections.
As far as .m3u or .zip files -- those are 100% generated on-the-fly now, on demand -- so we don't mention them in the derivative table since we don't technically make them (and thus don't put them into the item directory)

(13) good call -- you have to hover for video, but not audio. I've updated each page respectively, thx!

(14) you continue to be one of our amazing assets here at the Archive! Happy NY!

-tracey


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Poster: Vlax Date: Apr 24, 2012 7:23am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player + "specific audio file"

I'm trying to use the feature to include a specific audio file; as the audio help page says:

[iframe src="http://archive.org/embed/jj2008-06-14.mk4/jj2008-06-14d2t04.flac" width="500" height="30" frameborder="0"]

using this (obviously with the correct < >) it shows correctly the player for a single file; but it's not working for my item (http://archive.org/details/WarscapeSonata), player it's not showing anything:

[iframe src="http://archive.org/embed/WarscapeSonata/WarScapeSonata_Detenido-en-posesion.mp3" width="500" height="30" frameborder="0"]

even if you try to use another file from the same example item (http://archive.org/details/jj2008-06-14.mk4/), player it's not showing anything:

[iframe src="http://archive.org/embed/jj2008-06-14.mk4/jj2008-06-14d2t01_vbr.mp3" width="500" height="30" frameborder="0"]


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My browser test results:
Do we think: you have loaded jwplayer? ... yes

...jwplayer parsed properly? yes

...you have flash? false

...alternate hasFlash() check? no

This appears to be your agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/11.0 Iceweasel/11.0

extracted filename: /download/camels/camels.mp4

flashCanPlay() result: true

best we can tell, you see a [Play] style button above. If *NOT*, please contact info@archive.org with subject like "from forums: tell tracey cant see play style button in test"

Trying embed of: flash (only), default skin, mp4 only, minimal, autoplay:

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 25, 2012 6:32am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Loading of embedded player is PAINFULLY slow compared to the old player (I.E. from more or less instant (old player) up to 48 seconds (new player) side by side on the same webpage! Any plans to fix this?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 11:50am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i couldn't imagine how this is possible!
even if you had caching turned off for our site in your browser,
the extra pieces needed for new player aren't that big (nor are the # requests that many as we use a .zip for distributing lots of little files for flash; and png base 64 encoding for html5 inside an .xml file)

there is now a "I prefer flash" new link at the bottom of the new player.
how is performance for you when you try that?
-tracey

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Poster: swampskunk1313 Date: Jan 21, 2012 8:51am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

On a TV show 27:something seconds, a revolving circle no show no sound. I have Windows 7, but still sues IE8 because I don't like 9.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 21, 2012 11:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

can you paste a link to it?
is it doing it for other items, too?

thanks!
-tracey

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Poster: storehadji Date: Mar 13, 2012 4:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player works, but it doesn't list the entire file name, so for a page with many files I don't know what I'm listening to. The old player did list the complete file name.

Don't be like Facebook and enforce change that wasn't asked for and people don't want. I do not want the new player, and my own files are compromised in that no one will know what is playing.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 6:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


I'll show your my user survey of people wanting a new player if you show me yours? ;-)

I see 18 items which I believe you uploaded.
Most seem 100% OK, maybe two nixon related ones do have some of the issue you mention.
I'm trying some extensions to allow word breaking with CSS but nothing working quite yet. The new player has two major "display modes" -- flash and html5 video tags. It's been setup with various baked in assumptions on playlist entry height so I'm not sure trying to extend that is the best idea (and the more we customize, the harder it is for us to upgrade to a player upgrade).

So nothing conclusive yet, but poking...
-tracey, staff


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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 6:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i've updated all 18 items to have a "length/runtime" for each playlist entry.
(that's item-based)

as far as improving the playlist...

i've dropped the fontsize from 13px to 11px, and done "hard right cut" of 34 chars for titles (latter especially helps where a title or fallback filename has no whitespace for more than 34 chars).

that helps quite a bit for all 18 items. there's just a few now that have some minor issues. maybe you could move the "part 1" and "part 2" from the end to the front on them?

sorry i don't have a perfectly ideal solution for you...
-tracey

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Poster: flmovieboy Date: Jan 21, 2012 5:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It does not work for me.
I wish we could opt for the old player.

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Poster: nathanpease Date: Mar 19, 2012 9:06am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

"Here is Germany" by Frank Capra would not go to fullscreen. I opened the movie in the old player and it went to fullscreen.

I am running Safari 5.1.4 and Mac OS X 10.7.3 on a MacBook Pro.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 5:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, actually, was able to make (html5 nonflash mode) fullscreen button work for firefox and push that live, too.

(i've got safari 5.1.4 and OSX 10.6.8 (but I have 10.7.3 on work machine), too, and can fullscreen that movie, so not entirely sure why it didn't work for you.
is it consistent or just occasional?

-tracey

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 2:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

fullscreen tech in flash plugin is well established and works on nearly every platform/OS/hardware combo.

html5 is not quite yet there -- but the latest versions of the main four browsers (IE9, firefox v11, chrome, safari) either have fullscreen capable already (which we use -- eg: safari + chrome)

I just tried:
http://archive.org/details/HERE_IS_GERMANY

in safari and chrome, and new player w/ html5 fullscreen-ed fine.
in firefox v11 (and i think back to v9) it expands to within the browser window. you can find the "View" menu then "Fullscreen" and then click our fullscreen button to make it nearly perfect fullscreen right now.

not sure about IE9.

if you miss the more "real" fullscreen, you can always elect the
I prefer flash (when possible)
link and you'll be back to flash-based fullscreen


anyway, point being, html5 is close and i know from conferences and contacts that all are *rapidly* converging to make this work very well as it's understandably a highly desirable feature for users.
so it's coming very soon to all browsers, and we're staying on top of it and updating to it ASAP!

-tracey

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Mar 16, 2012 8:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new audio player does not load at all for me. I'm on an older Mac laptop (PowerBook G4) running OS 10.4.11. My browsers are Firefox 3.6.28 and Safari 4.1.3 -- the last versions for PowerPC. [Chrome is not compatible at all.] Where the audio player should display on a page, in Firefox I see a solid black rectangle, and in Safari there is nothing where the player should be.

The old, flash-based audio player still works fine for me, but I understand it is on its way out. When the time comes I suppose I won't be able to stream any audio at all, it would be download-only for my older Mac. :o(

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Mar 18, 2012 9:15am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Actually, I've found some pages where the new player does indeed load, as well as more pages where it does not load.

Here are some pages where the player does not load for me, audio and video:

http://www.archive.org/details/Suspense-HeadshrinkeragnesMoorehead
http://www.archive.org/details/AgnesMooreheadInCavalcadeOfAmerica
http://www.archive.org/details/The_Bat_Vincent_Price
http://www.archive.org/details/MayorOfTheTown
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePsalmsOfDavid
http://www.archive.org/details/G.B.ShawDonJuanInHell

Here are some pages where the new player does load successfully for me (audio):

http://www.archive.org/details/otr_campbellplayhouse
http://www.archive.org/details/AgnesMoorehead-ColumbiaWorkshop
http://www.archive.org/details/RailroadOTR
http://www.archive.org/details/CavalcadeOfAmerica
http://www.archive.org/details/StudioOne

I hope this additional information will help troubleshooting. Let me know if you'd like any additional data.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 18, 2012 3:37pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


so for ThePsalmsOfDavid -- it looks like track #2 may have come from a source that our opensource tools don't like to derive from -- so there is no ".ogg" and thus firefox won't be able to play track #2. but track #1 *should* play. is that so for you?

ok, was able to rebuild our main tool to latest version and get that 2nd .ogg made, at least...

This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2012-03-18 22:37:28

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 18, 2012 12:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

and thanks for trying a lot of items and letting us know that at least some are working for you. i've tried all the "not workings" and aside from my *David note (working on a fix for that to make the 2nd .ogg at least) they all play for me.

we've got a few folks reporting issues w/ older firefox so we are trying to see if we can hunt that down. but safari was having problems as well, right?
-tracey, staff

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Mar 18, 2012 5:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Tracey, thanks for your replies.

I've tested again this evening and found improved results with Safari 4.1.3, but for most pages in Firefox 3.6.28 where I had trouble earlier, the new media player still does not load, even after clearing the cache. "Psalms of David" is loading in Safari now, but still does not load in Firefox. One item that still does not load in Safari is "The Bat" video.

I've tested another video this evening, "Andy Crocker," which did not load in Firefox but loaded fine in Safari:

http://www.archive.org/details/Ballad_of_Andy_Crocker_1969

When the player does not load, the whole player does not load -- I do not get any items at all. See attached screen shots.

Please let me know if I may do some additional testing to help troubleshoot this further. Thank you.

Attachment: NewPlayerBad-Firefox.jpg
Attachment: NewPlayerBad-Firefox-2.jpg
Attachment: NewPlayerBad-Safari.jpg

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 31, 2012 3:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, we're still kinda unsure/iffy on firefox that old (v3.6 comes from Jan2010 AFAIK). can you consider updating firefox if still those video not working?

(we *have* put in a bunch of fixes to firefox-related issues, but i'm not sure which, if any, might pertain/help the issues you've seen).

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Apr 1, 2012 9:45am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Tracey,

Thanks for your reply. Although Firefox 3.6 was first released in January 2010 (21 January 2010), it is still being updated. It was the latest version of Firefox until version 4.0 was released last March (22 March 2011).

Firefox 3.6.x is the last version compatible with PowerPC, so as I mentioned in my first post, I cannot upgrade the browser. Likewise with Safari 4.x.

The group of pages I linked above as not loading the media player, still do not load for me in Firefox 3.6.28 as of today (though they do load in Safari 4.1.3). The media player for "The Bat" video is now loading in Safari, but with a long delay (about a minute), though still not loading in Firefox. [See screen shots attached to my previous post.]

I would appreciate if this issue with Firefox 3.6.x could be resolved, as it is my main web browser. Since some pages do load properly, it seems as though a comparison might be made to determine what prevents certain pages from loading the new media player. Please let me know if I may do some further testing or provide additional data.

Thank you.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 2:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

FIXED!

(found a v3.6 firefox at home here w/ ubuntu...
indeed, as i guessed, it seems to trip up on html5 [video] tag
so by default, if we detect you have a firefox v3.6 browser,
we'll automatically prefer you into "flash" option.
patrons are free to override back to html5 if they find their
firefox v3.6 can handle it, though, too).

you may need to load a page and then reload it (we use a small cookie, "avpref=flash" to set to indicate to try flash first, then try html5 second (instead of the default of try html5 first; flash second)

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Apr 1, 2012 5:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've tested the group of pages linked previously as not loading properly in Firefox, and all but one of them is now loading successfully. On this page the media player is still not loading:

http://archive.org/details/Suspense-HeadshrinkeragnesMoorehead

. . .but if I click the link "I prefer flash (when possible)" then the media player does indeed load.

The media player for the "The Bat" video is loading fine in Firefox now, but it still taking about 70 seconds to load in Safari 4.1.3:

http://archive.org/details/The_Bat_Vincent_Price

Other than these two little stragglers, I'd say my issues are mostly resolved now. Thank you Tracey!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:26pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, great!

at that point, it sounds like the normal/occasional issues that we have from time-to-time. sometimes our datanodes (we have two servers per media file) get a bit overloaded and so can our network (get saturated) at times.

we do our best to clear problems and keep the servers happy, but as I can't reproduce the "Bat" issues, i'm hoping it's just a random blip, etc...

thanks for working with us and giving us so much valuable feedback and information!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

still being updated, really? can you cite that?
(not trying to challenge, per se -- just i loaded up XP and tried to put ffox v3.6 on it and it wouldn't and instead wanted me to get ffox v11)

what about "i prefer flash" link below the audio/video?
does that help, maybe? (in case the html5 portion is getting tripped up in ffox 3.6)

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Apr 1, 2012 5:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Yes, Firefox 3.6 is still being updated. Version 3.6.28 was released on 13 March 2012.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases

I have no problem running Firefox 3.6 on my WinXP PC at the office. Here is the download page:

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all-older.html

In the past when I have tried the "I prefer flash" link, it has not helped.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thx for the tip/info!

(and yes, due to this bugginess in the JS API to the player we use for firefox v3.6, unfortunately I think the "I prefer flash" link may have still have had issues, even when it was preferred/detected first. glad that we have a workaround in place now!)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ruh-roh. looks like we're weeks to the expiry date 8-(

[from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_3.6 ]
Firefox versions 4 through 9 had all reached end-of-life status while Mozilla continued supporting Firefox 3.6 with security updates. Coinciding with a proposal to cater to Enterprise users with optional Extended Support Releases beginning in 2012 based upon Firefox 10, Mozilla has tentative plans to discontinue support for Firefox 3.6 on April 24, 2012

i wonder what PowerPC folks are going to do? maybe they'll have a v11 upgrade that works, then? i will try to hunt down a PPC mac at work monday anyway...

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Poster: Professional Tourist Date: Apr 1, 2012 5:24pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Regarding:

i wonder what PowerPC folks are going to do? maybe they'll have a v11 upgrade that works, then?

No, we will continue to use Firefox 3.6.x. All newer versions of Firefox require an Intel processor.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

seems logical.
i worry in general about any s/ware going into "nonmaintained" for any users/computers. but hopefully any glaring security issues will get plugged, still.

we'll continue to have Firefox v3.6 on our short list of "must work on" browsers, so thanks for helping us sort that out!

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Poster: Renato Tavolieri Filho Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player works fine - the only problem is that in the new version the link to embed simply disappeared !!!!! And this option is fundamental!!!! How will we embed our audios in our blogs? Please - do think about this...
Thank you for your attention.
Renato Tavolieri Filho
renatotfilho@uol.com.br

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:43pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

http://archive.org/post/416530

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Poster: fordboy0 Date: May 7, 2012 6:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi Tracey,

I love the new player. I am in process of putting something similar together for my band's website and was wondering if development was open, and if so, does it have an open source license?

It is really nice, keep up the good work!

-Jeff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 11:44am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi,
yes it is an opensource player. we have opted to buy the commercial version of it, which simply allows a few extra features like "related videos", "sharing" screen (to twitter/facebook, etc.), and removal of the default watermark/logo. but otherwise it is the same player.

I copied info below from:
http://www.longtailvideo.com/jw-player/license/

JW Player 6 — Open Source Edition
The use of the JW Player Open Source edition is governed by a Creative Commons license. In short:

JW Player Open Source - You can use, modify, copy, and distribute this edition as long as it's for non-commercial use, you provide attribution, and share under a similar license.
The license summary and full text can be found here: CC BY-NC-SA 3.0




you can use/try our embed codes -- they work very nicely directly on most websites/blogs and you can size/playlist/autoplay them as you like!
-tracey

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Poster: starless8 Date: Mar 31, 2014 7:52pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi tracey,

is there any way to disable "related videos" popping up after an embedded video plays? i noticed a lot of questions about this in the forum but i haven't seen any answers. i would like to disable this feature if possible. the "related" videos that are suggested have no relevance to the original video. thank you in advance for your reply.

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Poster: Karl Bunker Date: Sep 23, 2012 5:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Every other video player in the history of the universe uses a press of the space bar to pause/play. How about implementing that on this one?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Dec 31, 2012 2:32pm
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i totally agree.

you want SPACE toggle for entire page (but not any form inputs, etc.) or just when moused over video and hit SPACE?

nearly have the new player setup now....

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Poster: Karl Bunker Date: Dec 31, 2012 2:51pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks for the follow-up. I guess when moused over the video, or when the video is playing at full-screen, would make the most sense.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 28, 2013 11:36pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

wow, thtat took some time... (mostly other fires burning and such...)
sorry for the long delay

OK, so earlier today I pushed out changes to mostly do this.
I say mostly because I think there are some fullscreen situations and some browser/OS combos that might not quite work *or* might pause/play toggle, but still bump the page down (ie: ignore my "don't propogate key press any further" code).

But please give it a try and report back how it works or not for you...

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Poster: MeredithRoadBC Date: May 1, 2012 1:44am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi, when I try to edit item to add another audio file to our page, another screen comes up with the message, We're sorry the page you have requested is not available. I have tried going back to the old player but this does not resolve the problem. We currently add another audio file to this page every week and so I would really appreciate a quick response to this if you have a fix for it. the page is:

http://archive.org/details/SermonsAtMeredithRoadBaptistChurchCoventry

My email address is:meredithroadbc@homecall.co.uk

thanks, Sam

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: May 1, 2012 12:00pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

you are going to this page, right?

http://archive.org/edit/SermonsAtMeredithRoadBaptistChurchCoventry

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Poster: MeredithRoadBC Date: May 2, 2012 1:33am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yes - and it is working today but honestly wasn't yesterday!!!

thanks for your help.Sam.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: May 2, 2012 6:57am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

No you found something bad and it took *3* of us to fix it yesterday!
(our std. webserver (nginx) had a very strange issue after we upgraded it and once servers in the field started restarting)

Sorry for the issue and inconvenience to you!
Thanks for the report!
-tracey

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Poster: los-ms Date: May 1, 2012 10:32am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

we're having the exact same problem here:
http://archive.org/details/TheorieUndKritikDerAntipsychiatrie

This post was modified by los-ms on 2012-05-01 17:32:52

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Poster: imaginashawn Date: Jul 31, 2012 3:30pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Wow, with all these problems/complaints about the new player, why haven't you taken it down yet?

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Poster: Mary Fran Bontempo Date: Jan 30, 2012 1:44pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Where are the embed codes? Trying to embed audio on my site and can't find the embed codes. When I click on the archive icon, I get a tiny, sloppy overlay on the player with FB and Twitter icons but no embed code. Help!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 30, 2012 2:12pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

you need to wipe your browser cache, then, (and reload)
i'm nearly certain.

sorry -- should make it so that's not necessary, but
the flash loading customization was a bit tricky....

let me know if that fixes or not!

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Poster: adcro Date: Feb 13, 2012 9:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

um... great but I don't understand the answer... sorry to be a dumbo. I like IA and found it user-friendly before... I am back wanting to use it again, actively, but can't find the embed code.
Thanks for your time

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 13, 2012 10:03am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi. click the Internet Archive logo and a window should pop up with the embed code.

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Poster: adcro Date: Feb 13, 2012 11:31am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

um... sadly no I get a facebook and twitter and 'full version at 00:00 IA'... with another IA icon... click on that... and I get the page again... groundhog day and no embed code.
I feel a little silly here like I am failing to see the nose on my face...
Thanks for your time Jeff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 13, 2012 11:50am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

what is the item url and what browser/version are you using?

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Poster: adcro Date: Feb 13, 2012 1:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

http://www.archive.org/details/UjjaiBreath
Windows Internet Explorer 8.0.6
thanks Jeff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 13, 2012 2:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thanks. we'll look into that. in the meantime the embed code for that item is

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Poster: adcro Date: Feb 13, 2012 2:20pm
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suspense... no code visible to me here... sorry
thanks Jeff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 13, 2012 5:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

sorry guys,
this was my bad -- just pushed a fix to a fix 8-)
that makes sure the "embed tips page" button and link
is on the "top row" for audio items
where there is only 1 or 2 songs

(basically it was getting bumped off, vertically, for most IE flash setups)

so hopefully you can see and use it now!
-tracey

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 13, 2012 2:46pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

take an embed code from any other item, say http://www.archive.org/details/gd1980-12-26.nak300.walker-scotton.miller.89260.sbeok.flac16

and just substitute UjjaiBreath for everything after embed/

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Poster: WillCo Date: Jan 27, 2012 12:52pm
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And it works fine! (Vista, Explorer 9).

There were a few months of weirdness but now it seems good. My only slight complaint is that you have to scroll through a show with lots of songs; maybe all songs should be visible at the same time as the page loads, as used to happen.

Many many thanks to everyone for all the effort you go to on our behalf.

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Poster: SomethingTV Date: Oct 15, 2012 9:52pm
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I'd like to be able to resize the player. It doesn't seem possible right now.

thanks for all you do.
sjk

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Sep 4, 2012 8:39pm
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I'm using my older backup computer pentium 4 windows XP

Black area appears above playlist; new player doesn't seem to load unless it is playing- you can't pre-load when it isn't playing- seems that the old player was more reliable as far as losing communication- if you click past where it has loaded, not only will it not play- but requires refreshing before you can play in the red area again. I've also had issues with the player jumping to another selection unexpectedly. This computer may be blocking active x with anti-virus software. ( Windows or Stopsign, I'm not sure which, which is not able to be over-ridden by hitting the control key while loading.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 10:34am
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hmm, realistically I'm not sure we can find a device like this to test/hone with and support particularly well. I can see if a coworker with some XP images can provide some doublechecking for our player and XP at least...

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Poster: minimause Date: Mar 17, 2012 5:58am
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Does not really work that great new player, I only see a black surface, I use firefox and XP, why do I now have to install additional software for the player to work, the original player was not great this is even worse, simply use an html player please or a better flash one, archive! is much easier to integrate into Blogger and other sites! other sites have very nice ones and are using flash, they always work perfectly and look great, but I adore archive.org, it only just needs a nice flash player, succes and love minimause

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 18, 2012 11:48am
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our embeds work in blogger as well as self-hosted wordpress.

i'm pretty sure there is some issue w/ older firefox versions, and i can help if you take a look at this new page:

http://www.archive.org/details/testplay

it will run a bunch of tests. if you can paste the results to a reply to this, i can then be much closer to figuring out where the issue is and fix it.
(i'm guessing you'll make it through to the very last test, then fail the final embed...)

-tracey, staff

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Poster: rsanchez1937 Date: Jul 29, 2012 3:23pm
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Cannot hear the Audio in the Green Hornet.
I have a Vista Ultimate with IE8.
Is there a fix?
The post failed 5 times because the Forum was not selected ,
the message already showed "movies".

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 10:46am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

now that our player has settled and has had many fixes and updates applied, can you let us know if this is still an issue for you now?
thanks!

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Poster: rsanchez1937 Date: Jul 29, 2012 3:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Cannot hear the audio in the Green Hornet.
I have a Vista PC with IE8.
Is there a fix?

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Poster: MiddletownMike Date: Feb 26, 2012 8:32am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I just uploaded an audio clip and cannot find the embedding code. I search the help files but cannot find the answer.

Where exactly can I find the embedding code for this clip:

http://www.archive.org/details/MiddletownAnswersIpadQuestions

Thanks

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 26, 2012 9:29am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

click the IA temple logo and then click "Click for embedding tips and help" link. midway down you'll see:

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Poster: MiddletownMike Date: Feb 26, 2012 12:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thank you,

After triple-taking a closer look I saw that the embed code was within the "example".

This type of format is somewhat confusing but I like that there are now 4 different embedding options for postings.

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Poster: Jimena Flores Date: Feb 15, 2012 8:04pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It's cool. Thank you!!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMendoCoastTV Date: Feb 21, 2012 6:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I run a web site for a Cable Access Television station that has been uploading our production videos since 2009. We display them on our web site for local folks who don't have cable access. We have gone through at least three iterations of your embedded player and we have always been able to make it work for our site until now. The new player doesn't have full screen capability for most of our viewers who use IE or Mozilla or Safari browsers. Also, and this just happened today. Something has been done at Archive.org which has resulted in the preview images for all of our earlier embeds to be nullified. We get the "Picture Coming Soon..." image instead, unless we are using the current version of the embed code. Will this be fixed eventually?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 6:03pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i can certainly fix the thumbnails if still an issue.
can you paste a link?

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Poster: bolwerK Date: Mar 9, 2012 8:24am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hey i hav the same problem, everywhere picture coming soon, what to do? http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=bolwerk

before it was all okay...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 12, 2012 10:37am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hmm....
i'd be *quite* certain this never worked before given how your items are setup (but i'm willing to accept i could be wrong 8-)

here's how you can make those turn into the real "animated gifs" for your item
(and unfortunately it *is* a bit of a pain...)

if you have an item with identifier of "myIdentifier" (it's the thing after "/details/" -- so the item "http://www.archive.org/details/camels" is the identifer "camels"), then you want your uploaded video (or pick the one you want to show in search results if 2+ videos in the item)
to be named exactly that identifier, plus whatever relevant extension
(for example, "myIdentifier.mov")

That way, when we make the ".gif" for the video, it's named "myIdentifier.gif".

So you'd have to edit each item and make this happen, and then rederive. I can help with the rederiving if you want to do the editing, etc.

When the search results page is shown again, then the GIFs will show up nicely.

-tracey (not just staff, by a video uploader to archive.org, too ;-)

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Poster: najram Date: Mar 5, 2012 5:37am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've got the exact same problems MediCoastTV has. Do I have to change all my former embedded video's to get the thumbnails back (not a very pleasant thing to do)? Or is this a bug to be fixed?
The old embedded player worked pretty nice, simple, full screen, customizable. Any chance of getting that option back? Full screen is not working now, at least not in firefox 10.0.2.

This post was modified by najram on 2012-03-05 13:37:37

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 5:57pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

fullscreen works if you opt-in to flash w/ the "I prefer flash" link for all setups/platforms/browsers.

otherwise, fullscreen works pretty well for safari and chrome, works on iOS.

firefox fullscreen htm5 support is coming very soon!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 6:03pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i can certainly fix the thumbnails if still an issue.
can you paste a link?

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Poster: najram Date: Mar 8, 2012 8:02am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hey there,

A link to what you mean? On my site or a movie on archive.org?

thank you in advance for your time and effort!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 8, 2012 10:52am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yes, please! i can't reproduce what you are referring to, so a link where the problem is visible will allow me to rapidly fix it.

(we *did* do a slight change to the way we serve thumbnails, but it's only a backend "make it faster" kind of change so don't think it's that...)

thanks!
-tracey (archive staff)

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Poster: najram Date: Mar 13, 2012 7:04am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Tracey,

Sorry for the delay. I cannot post a direct link to the site. But I embedded (for example) this one:



I hope you can fix it.

You mentioned something about the new player I do not understand. I can choose to see the flash player or the html one on archive.org but when I embed the movie there is only one code available. And in that player, full screen does not work. Can I embed another code?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Best regards,

Marjan Nordholt

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 11:59am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi Marjan,

OK here's what's going on (I know what you're conveying, even w/o the /embed/ 8-)
When you are on a /details/ page, you can "prefer" to have flash or html5 first. However, it's just a preference order -- both are used.
So in practice, if your browser is something like a recent chrome/firefox/safari/IE9, with a flash plugin installed, then it can do both
(it can play a .mp4 via flash plugin; it can play a .mp4 or .ogv "natively" via an html5 [video] tag). We default to try/use html5 if your browser says it can play with that method, and "fallback" to flash plugin.

Due to some issues with some patrons, we decided to reverse that preference order as a clickable "sticky" option (to prefer flash plugin first and only use html5 if flash plugin playback not available).


We haven't (as of now, at least) opted to allow for that on /embed/ pages directly, per se -- BUT if you prefer flash on the archive.org site, then if you visit (using the same browser) another site that is using an archive.org /embed/ code -- you'll prefer flash there, too! 8-)


Lastly, it's worth pointing out that your preference is just for you and your browser. It doesn't change it for all visitors of archive.org for that item and doesn't change it for all visitors of a given off-site embed of an archive.org item.

Hope that makes sense!
-tracey

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Poster: najram Date: Mar 19, 2012 6:32am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Tracey,

What I understand from your reply is that there is only one way to embed the movie and that, on my Internetsite, the movie is either shown as a flash or a html mediaplayer, depending on what preferences the viewer has chosen on archive.org?

Can you fix the thumbs in my embedded player, the old ones (http://www.archive.org/flow/flowplayer.commercial-3.2.1.swf?) I mean? Or do I have to replace all code with the new code?

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards,

Marjan Nordholt

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 10:46am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Marjan,

OK, so we found the issue with MendiCoast TV (not related to the new player) -- this was for the flowplayer now "older" embed codes. (We recently updated our serving of missing images to return a 404 response code, and that somehow tangled up serving of thumbnails in general for these embed codes, eek! (that wasn't my change, but it's still our bad for not noticing the breakage).

fixed now for you, too?

and yes, you understand me right. in the new embed codes, the same preference of "i prefer flash more than html5" (or vice versa) on archive.org site will also have that preference for offsite embedded audio/video for that user as well (it's a very small simple cookie set or not set, to make that preference -- and with the new embed codes, any of the small cookies "move around" with the embed. nothing creepy going on here! we require all employees here to ensure all user logs are irreversibly anonymized for our visitors -- we *DONT* want to know what you are reading/watching/listening to! 8-)


hope that's all helpful info, etc.
-tracey

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Poster: najram Date: Apr 17, 2012 5:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Tracey,

Thank you for the fix and explanation. Indeed, my thumbs are back!

But concerning the player. Visitors of my site do not know/are not interested as to where these movies reside and how they can choose to view either html or flash, they do not visit archive.org in order to be able to watch the movies on my site. I hope it makes sense to you what I am trying to tell you.
I am afraid I will have to find a solution myself.

Thank you for any helpful comments :-)

Kind regards,

Marjan

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Poster: cowboy gary Date: Feb 16, 2012 6:49am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player is great except for one thing, it truncates a lot of movies and videos. If it displays a play length in even minutes (57:00 for example) it has probably dropped the end of the movie. I've found several instances of this.
One example is the 'Lone Ranger' 15 chapter serial. It truncates most, if not all, chapters.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 16, 2012 10:44am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

link?

something like
http://www.archive.org/details/The_Lone_Ranger_Page_01

(but i'm only seeing ~28 mins on those...)

-tracey, staff

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Poster: cowboy gary Date: Feb 19, 2012 9:07am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new video player is truncating many of the movies. If the length is in minutes and zero seconds (52:00,57:00 for example) it has probably dropped the last part of a minute for the end.

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Poster: cowboy gary Date: Feb 19, 2012 9:12am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

tracey,
you refered to an audio file. I was talking about video files, especially movies.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 19, 2012 11:38am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

fine 8-) but can you please copy a /details/ link
here because I can't find the items you are referring to
(in order to try to reproduce and fix any issue 8-)

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Poster: cowboy gary Date: Feb 21, 2012 8:41am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I don't know how to copy a /details/link but I can give you titles to several old western movies that are truncated. You probably won't find these by searching 'movies'. You can find these by a 'moving images' search or an 'all media types' search.
1)The Lawless Frontier
2)Range Feud
3)Riders of the Whistling Skull
4)Two Fisted Law
There's several more that I could list, if you need them.
Thanks

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 7:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, sorry for the delay...

alrighty -- i think there are 2 separate issues going on here:

(1)
cosmetic -- in the playlist *below* the player, indeed some of our videos were showing just the minutes and not the seconds.

I think this is one of the shows you mentioned above:
http://www.archive.org/details/RidersOfTheWhistlingSkull

That used to show 52:00 in the playlist, now it is the correct 52:23. There indeed was a (cosmetic) bug for many items in the code for dropping the seoncds -- fixed globally now and live.


(2)
i think this .divx source and some other similar items is cutoff a bit early -- at least when I play the .divx it ends abruptly a split-second after "The End" appears. so, so does the .mp4 in the video player that you play/see. not much we can do there if the uploader cuts a bit early (eg: before the full credits roll, etc.)


another item
http://www.archive.org/details/TheLawlessFrontier1934

stops after the "The End" and the fade to black (now?) so that seems fine.
(that one would have shown 49:00 and now it's the proper 49:48).

maybe you are using the flash-oriented side of our new player and this fix now fixes the issue, entirely?

let's hope!
thanks for sticking with me/us and making The Archive a better place!
-tracey
PS: sorry for any inconvenience, too!

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Poster: NYChivist Date: Feb 11, 2012 6:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

No two ways about it, I like the new player. Tight interface and sleek design. Good job! Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 12, 2012 1:14pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thanks for that! 8-)

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Poster: DriveByArchivist Date: Aug 26, 2012 5:29am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Mouse pointer is visible in fullscreen mode in Chrome on Mac OS X 10.6.8. Annoying.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 4, 2012 12:00am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Here's my one issue -- tried it over the course of a little time to see if it kept happening. It does. This one may be unique to me.

I use the IA from overseas, with very slow internet, so I generally have to buffer. That means I have to hit the play/pause button and then let the little gray bar fill up. The problem I'm running into with this new setup is that when I hit that play/pause button, it doesn't immediately register (or seem to register) visually, so I don't actually KNOW if I'm buffering or not. That's a real pain.

Once the thing kicks in, it's fine. But it's finicky. No idea why. Previously, it was always responsive; I'd hit "pause" and it would switch to the "pause" image and do it's pause thing, right on command, like a nice obedient little player. Now, not so much. I go "tap tap tap" and it ignores me, as if I haven't asked it to do anything at all, until it decides it's good and ready after a bunch of commands. (Maybe you genetically spliced it with a beagle? Or a teenager?)

On the plus side, it seems to be playing (buffering) faster for me these days, though that may not be relevant to the player or anything on your end.

Btw I use Vista with Explorer

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 1:52pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ouch, that sounds pretty awful (having to buffer).

i could have you try a "dont start playing until 10 seconds is buffered" option and you could let me know if that's better?
(i believe we currently do the default of 1 second (only) -- which is great for a satisfying "start quickly!" experience, but not if you're far away from our "California, USA" only server centers...)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Feb 11, 2012 6:54pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Well, the challenge isn't dealing with buffering (which I'm used to), but knowing WHEN it's buffering with the new player. It doesn't always respond. E.g., I click the play/pause to buffer, and instead of the "button" switching visually (which it always did with the previous player), it has no response. It should switch to the next mode, and then show the little gray bar filling up (so that I'd know it was buffering.) Sometimes it's buffering; sometimes it hasn't "heard" me. If that makes sense. Kinda weird.

It might be hard to explain without demonstrating (and luckily you don't have that problem, LOL, though of course you could try to get IA to pay for your trip to Nepal to check out what I mean :-) )

But anyway, when it DOES buffer it seems to have fewer glitches overall, and I can listen to amazing free music from halfway around the world with a few clicks and a bit of waiting, just like magic, so I shouldn't whine!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 8, 2012 2:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, i've updated our "require at least 1 second to be loaded/buffered before playback starts" to *5* seconds.

so if you are able, maybe you could see if things behave any differently for you -- because as you rightly point out, it's a bit hard for me to simulate your location! 8-)

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Mar 28, 2012 6:00am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I hate to mention this because it might jinx it, but it's actually been working a lot better for me since you made that switch! Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 9:25am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

well i am glad you did mention it because I was wondering if it had any help at all and if I should consider moving back down to "prebuffer 3 seconds" instead of the "prebuffer 5 seconds" (but still more than the default "prebuffer 1 second"), since requiring more of the audio/video to buffer *first* before starting playback means a little longer before clicking audio/video and it actually starts.

but if we're indeed helping some of our possibly slower link/bandwidth users, then 5 it shall stay! 8-)

thanks for the feedback -- truly appreciated.

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Poster: Ray54 Date: Nov 1, 2012 6:47am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Very cool,thank you!

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Feb 6, 2012 11:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Plays better, can go istantly to any portion of file and play. CAN'T READ NAMES

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Poster: FTMA Date: Jan 25, 2012 2:14pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

You really don't want my feedback; I am angry enough to yell foully at the screen. But here it is anyway. I see someone mentioned "criminals" at certain other sites/companies in the feedback; how about "criminals" at tis site? I don;t like being forced to okay a site sticking things into my computer in order to see content; no matter how many times I click "deny" on the so-called request it always comes back up within 2 seconds of having disappeared. Pretty tough to see anything around that bloody big square right in the middle of the screen. Clearly, one does not watch anything here without getting junk stuffed into their comp whether they want it or not. Equally infuriating, it is necesarry to make an account, allowing yet more junk stuffed into one's computer by the site, just to say anything about this. And after having been forced to make an account in order to say anything about the forced junk on the computer or you don;t get to see anything, the site doesn't put you back where you where but sticks you into the home page of the entire site so you must begin all over. Gee, Thanks. No thanks. And BTW, it's BS like this that sets off problems in a good number of veterans trying to cope with the ever rising stresses of everyday life around humans who refuse to deal with the fact that we came out of the service with TBI/PTSD. Just great to find the same BS at home while trying to relax and destress a little. I've only seen one or two other sites that won;t take "deny" for an answer when trying to steal space on my comp to keep track of my personal whatevers. I avoid them too. Shame on you.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 4:36pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

sorry, are you referring to the small cookies we use to set your preference for opting-in and such?

if you'd like, i can enumerate most of the cookies we might use...

[cookie name] [cookie value] [why]

newplayer jw [tells us you "opted in" to our new A/V player, so we dont have to ask you every /details/ page]

avpref flash [tells u you want flash only for the new A/V player]

the converse of any of those is the cookies are just plain removed.

we have a few more cookies related to login (that's quite standard)
and maybe just 1 or two more.


or maybe i'm way off track?
are you talking about cache size of A/V pieces for playback in your browser?

please help us understand -- and sorry for the extreme anger/frustration we've caused you!!
-tracey

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 28, 2012 8:24am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It's amazing how this posting has stuck in my head ever since I read it days ago! He was obviously pretty upset.
I can only imagine 2 scenarios where the above would have happened -
1 - it's a brand new computer, the Flash player has been chosen, but Flash isn't installed yet.
2 - It's a very old computer, the html5 player has been chosen, but the browser doesn't support it. (Do you have a 'suggest an browser upgrade' message?)
I can think of no other situation where IA would ask anyone to install anything!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 31, 2012 7:37pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi pegz,

yah, it's really stuck with me, too...

to answer your questions:

with our old player, we definitely make a nice red message (w/ link to adobe to get/upgrade flash) if flash is not installed or too odl.


for new player, if html5 is not possible in browser, and if flash is not installed, the click-to-play will become a download link.


i'm adding some changes now that will try to deduce if you're not able to get the player to work, etc...






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Poster: Renato Tavolieri Filho Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player works fine - the only problem is that in the new version the link to embed simply disappeared !!!!! And this option is fundamental!!!! How will we embed our audios in our blogs? Please - do think about this...
Thank you for your attention.
Renato Tavolieri Filho
renatotfilho@uol.com.br

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 1:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

click the "[Greek Columns]" icon
to get the embed code (video) or link to the embed code and lots of examples!

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Poster: Jumpmaster Date: Jan 29, 2012 12:52pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Works great on iPad, but on Samsung tablet (7.0 Plus) it freezes up almost exactly halfway through. Does this on every episode I tried to view.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 2:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, i've heard some mixed results on android...

(one possibly nonideal thing is our new player uses the [video] html tag instead of [audio] tag for playback of audio (which means you see a black page, typically, but hear the audio -- which has confused some of our patrons!(understandably!)). when i raised it to the jwplayer folks, they said in testing, android was "even worse" with audio tag alternative.

i think it's a bit difficult to get all the android variants tested well and sorted out, since there are so many OS versions, screen sizes, and hardware installs to try (that's what i hear from the player folks).

not sure what we can do, but i'm noting it at least as a reported issue...

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Poster: Woodshed Head Date: Feb 3, 2012 11:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Real nice..in fact, kick ass. Just wish it would let it play while leaving comment or searching!! W/7...IE 7.

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Poster: Ray Brubaker Ministries Date: Feb 21, 2012 12:11pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Great player! Does it play a playlist (stream) and what kind of player is it so we may be able to use it if needed?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 21, 2012 12:12pm
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you can definitely use it for any archive items easily.
you can see the "Embed help" link from any player on our pages
(eg: http://www.archive.org/help/video.php )

it does play playlists, but putting multiple items together into a single playlist (items that are on our site) is possible, but a bit more work and tricker...

-tracey,staff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffpourshariati Date: Jul 3, 2012 12:35pm
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I notice that the new player has trouble with scrubbing, that means, it is hard to go back and forth to a particular point. I hope you do not take down the old player.
For more detail, when you go back and forth it kind of freaks out and often returns to the beginning. The bar cannot be easily moved.
Thanks!
K

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jul 17, 2012 12:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

try opting in to the "i prefer flash" link version of the new player
and that should likely work better for your OS/browser combo, then.

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Poster: imaginashawn Date: Jul 31, 2012 3:24pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Why change from a player that worked just fine to a new player that doesn't? Why mess with a good thing?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 2, 2012 9:46am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

it didnt work just fine, just so you know.

the old player had a lot of problems embedding reliably and in a "future proof" way. it also was spotty on iOS (iPad/iPhone/etc.)

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Poster: imaginashawn Date: Aug 2, 2012 7:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The old player has worked just fine for me and if you'll notice, obviously for many others who are asking that it not be taken down.

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Poster: harmonicool Date: Sep 12, 2012 5:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yeah, how do you get the old player back?

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Poster: imaginashawn Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

By complaining to them about replacing it.

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Poster: Gladiatoresss Date: Jun 15, 2012 4:07am
Forum: movies Subject: Surah El kahf

Hi,
SURAH EL KAHF Audio on Here, Is MISSING SOME PARTS IN THE MiDDLE !!!! So plz Put Full Surah . Thanks

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Poster: mrcarlson Date: Mar 28, 2012 6:34am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

All right I realize I am missing the obvious here, but how do you embed the new player. There used to be an embed this link below the player that says embed this. Now all I get is:

You are using our new video/audio player!
I prefer flash (when possible)
Give us feedback!
While I still can, switch me back to the old player

I would like to use the new....but I can't.

Thanks,

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 9:15am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

click the "greek columns" icon in the play/pause/time bar to show embed related links and info! 8-)

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Poster: mrcarlson Date: Mar 28, 2012 9:21am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Yepperdoodles...thanks...that's so much easier than click her to embed.....columns....hmmm....

Seriously, thanks for the help. That has been driving me nuts.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 9:28am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, i hear ya, i really do.
my boss wanted some strong archive branding on our playbar, ideally, but with our current player, we could only easily add just one button (so it became the button to all our other buttons/info...)

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Poster: LongAfter Date: Feb 3, 2012 8:09pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Who is our?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 3, 2012 11:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

you mean "short bars like ours"?
ours, as in Internet Archive.
in that context above, I was speaking as an officially unelected representative on behalf of the Internet Archive.
(and by that I mean the main hired engineer working on this "product" of a our Audio/Video player and it's "new" redo as well 8-)

i'm not sure, but hopeful, that I've sorta answered your question!

cheers,
tracey, paid staff 2004-2012+ 8-)

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Poster: Mind Wondrin Date: Mar 15, 2012 3:17am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Today, couldn't get the old player to work. Switched to the new player and sound finally started but with bugs:
*Scroll/seek doesn't work. You have to listen to the whole song or nothing.
*Volume control is now an on/off toggle. The sound is so loud I had to turn my soundcard down to "1". It's still loud but any less and it clicks off, too.

Can't the old player remain live until the new player works? As of now the old player isn't even loading track titles.

OS: Vista
Broswer: Chrome

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Poster: Mind Wondrin Date: Apr 7, 2012 4:48am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Slider/seek still doesn't work - you can't grab it and move it so why even have it? You have to listen to the whole track start to finish.

Still no slider on the volume control; it's either on or off.

Perhaps these bugs should be fixed before the player even goes beta? They are rather basic and essential to the usefullness of a player...

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Poster: wesawthat Date: Mar 13, 2012 3:53pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi - your new audio embed code is not working for me as i attempt to embed one audio file and there is a huge blue blank square beneath the audio player. i know that i did not choose a playlist as there is no playlist option.

i wish this would be fixed or an option to use the old embed code which worked well.

audio file attempting to embed:
http://www.archive.org/details/FiredPiyushbobbyJindalStafferMarthaManuelSpeaksOut
===
blog post:
http://wesawthat.blogspot.com/2012/03/fired-piyush-bobby-jindal-govermental.html

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 4:00pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

you made your embed iframe width/height *awfully* narrow (which I wouldn't recommend -- I'd suggest 300 to 400 wide) *and* put a large height in (w/o playlist) which is making the vertical space.

drop the height down to 30 and you should be good.

thanks in advance for such a perfect forum post w/ your off-site link cited perfectly for me to see and quickly advise! 8-)
-tracey, staff

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Poster: wesawthat Date: Mar 13, 2012 4:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

thank you that appears to have cleared it up and also thank you very much for your rapid response!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 4:10pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

phew! 8-)
happy to help!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffChris Carlsson Date: Mar 22, 2012 1:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi Tracey,
I've been uploading and embedding our Shaping San Francisco Talks series for over 5 years and I can't seem to figure out how to get the embed code since you dropped the link beneath the play bar on the pages we create... please advise! My current page where i stash these things is here:
http://www.shapingsf.org/shapingSF_audio.html
thank you!
--Chris

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 10:37am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

clicking on the "[Greek columns]" icon button in the play/seek area will open up some "buttons" with links to embedding codes and very detailed instructions for a given video.

however, you can also just visit here directly for more general embed instructions and examples:

http://archive.org/help/audio.php
http://archive.org/help/video.php

from your offsite link, though (thanks!) it seems maybe you've already figured this out? 8-)

-tracey

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Poster: graham8408 Date: Aug 28, 2012 4:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

exellant

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Poster: rumpled Date: Apr 19, 2012 6:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Simply I would just like to be able to scroll through the songlist without putting my curser on the actual "black Box". This is something I had no problem with before.

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Poster: roamzero Date: Aug 7, 2012 8:28pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The ability to bookmark specific tracks and make playlists would be awesome.

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Poster: NYU75 Date: Aug 16, 2012 4:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I can no longer download the video to my Real Player. Was that intentional>

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Poster: Augustlion Date: Mar 18, 2012 11:58pm
Forum: movies Subject: Doesn't work for me!

I tried use the new embed code to link my music to my blog at blogspot.com, but it seemed hang-up and could not be clicked, although it displayed at the blog. I tried several time and all were failed. However, one year ago I used the old embed code and worked fine until right now.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 2:57pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Doesn't work for me!

that's the same as blogger.com, right?
we've seen multiple examples of folks being able to embed directly, using new embed codes, to blogger.com.

was it audio or video?
trying to embed "stream only" audio (eg: GratefulDead soundboards) had an issue until Sunday for firefox users (fixed).

do you have a link to a page and embed attempt that i could try to sort out?
thanks!
-tracey

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Poster: Augustlion Date: Mar 28, 2012 1:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Doesn't work for me!

It was pure audio file - music without any video. I used the embed code (the link below)to link my blog at blogger.com:

http://archive.org/help/audio.php?identifier=BachPrecludeInE

The page link at my blog is below:
http://august-lions.blogspot.com/p/classic-music.html

On this page, the last is failed one with new embed code and the rest are good links with old embed code.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 4:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Doesn't work for me!

thanks for the blogspot.com link!
the bottom two (new embeds) work fine for me...

what's your browser/OS combo?

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Poster: Augustlion Date: Mar 28, 2012 5:55pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Doesn't work for me!

I tested them and they work fine right now.
My browser Firefox 11 and Window XP and 7.
Thanks.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 6:05pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Doesn't work for me!

phew!! thanks 8-)

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Poster: Rashomon66 Date: Apr 1, 2012 9:00pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

On the new player the image for motion pictures stalls a lot on Firefox but is okay on Safari. I have no issues with the old player on Firefox.

Also the subtitles for 'Le Grand Blond',for instance, do not work on the new player when the image is full frame on either Firefox or Safari. Although on Safari they do work when the image is small size.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yes, for mac users:
-safari can native play .mp4 and jack right into h.264 instructions that are hardware accelerated
-firefox can native play only the .ogv (for now -- h.264 passthrough to macOS in a video tag is coming AFAIK) so it's only going to be able to do software decoding and then subject to your CPU/RAM combo more so, etc.

For firefox, you can "opt to flash" and still use the new player, and then you should get the .mp4 playing in flash (which should have ability to hook into h/ware acceleration).

Captioning not working in fullscreen mode is about right. We expect that in the future captioning will work for html5 mode and our new player.
But for now, you can watch w/o fullscreen or opt to "prefer flash" (again, still using the new player) and you'll be able to watch the video with caption overlay those ways at least.

The landscape is *rapidly* evolving/improving -- it's an exciting time to be working with and using video on the internets!

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Poster: Renato Tavolieri Filho Date: Jun 3, 2012 2:39am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I have already reported you that the new player doesn't have the "EMBED OPTION" link - and this is terrible! We users do need the embed options all the way, otherwise there is no point in uploading our files.
It seems to me you've decided to cancel it, and that is quite regretful.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 13, 2012 4:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

it's absolutely got it.
you just may or may not see it depending on the item
(post a /details/ page link if you like).

look for the archive logo in the player's "controlbar" and click that
to get to the *very* detailed page that shows various ways to embed our audio and video with copy/paste embed codes ready to go!

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: Jun 17, 2012 10:20am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I LiKe....it waS at tiMez,a issue wiTh the oLder method just to pLay anythIng....NOW,tap song..song plays...souNdz fantasTic...thouGh GraTefuL Dead souNdz faNtastIc no matteR iTs foRm of deLivery ..(~);}

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Poster: estee12 Date: May 1, 2012 5:52pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Great! Thank you. Listening to American Standard Bible on Asus IEEE pad, works well!

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Poster: LS_Maine Date: Sep 8, 2012 8:10pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've been using the new LMA music player but have now switched back to the old one. For some reason it has started making the music sound what I can only described as "wobbly". It's not like a buffering delay. If I go to the individual tracks section, that player is fine. Just tried going back to the old player and the entire set played beautifully. Haven't asked around to see if anyone else has had this happen, but nothing has changed on my side of the screen that might explain it.

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Poster: billbbill Date: Apr 18, 2012 7:45pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Well I'm talking the LMA - I've noticed some of my uploaded tracks end, well, before the end. It'll then advance to the next track. Not the edit on my end - If I click one of the vbr links it'll open in my default player and play fine.

I'm using a Mac w/Safari and OS X 10.6.8

Track 16 'Women Are Smarter' is a good example of this on this show

http://archive.org/details/sbb2012-03-31.sbd

Not positive if it happens on my pc too.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 11:16am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

OK, i've notice a *possible* issue here. Would you mind re-trying this item now and letting me know if it still has problems? If so, I can try an item update I have in mind and re-try playing one last time. If *that* turns out to have solved it, I can run a search across all IA items and issue a minor fix, likely...

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Poster: nwa Date: Feb 10, 2012 2:46pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

A few things:
* When you click on a song to play the behavior to slide to the top of the player is unnerving. The song should stay where it is in the view and just play.
* There are still noticeable hiccups between songs. Algos to allow for relatively seamless playback (bandwidth constraints aside) has been around for a long time and especially for those of us listening to jam bands where one track is not complete without the next track coming right in makes it hard to listen to shows with the gaps.
* This is not necessarily a player bug but... Can we finally get around to implementing format conversion for SHN? Specifically to MP3 to allow for streaming? There's a lot of older material that won't stream because it's in SHN and I can't see any reason why the engine couldn't handle them the same way it handles FLAC.

Thanks!
-Nate

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 1:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


1) well, that's the default behaviour of our jwplayer -- and we're trying to not add toooo much to our already heavy modifications and customizations to their player offering. So I think for now, since it's not an easy config option, we probably won't do that. But I'll keep your "vote" in mind going forward! (BTW, there are quite a few people who've already expressed that they like/prefer that behaviour, so it's always a bit hard to figure out the best solution for all!)

2) check out my recent reply to similar request/concern
http://www.archive.org/post/409746/new-video-audio-player-opt-in-is-live

3) this is strictly a kind of social/culture thing and preference of certain bands, nothing more. (that is, no technical issues on our end -- we could implement your request in under a weekend since we have a huge processing "farm" that could make the mp3 (and ogg) quickly. we have admins in LMA/etree (I'm assuming you are mostly concerned about those items?) who've discussed this. I'll bring it up to Tyler Huff especially and our collection team again...

Thanks for your thoughtful post and requests! Sorry I can't give you more of a "yes we can!" response, at least right now...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Feb 13, 2012 12:24pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Nate / Tracey, yes the reason a lot of the 'old' shows in .shn (it was the file format preference at the time of 2002/2004) do not have mp3s is only because they haven't 'been run'. Most bands that don't have mp3s have it as a format request that they want lossless only (example jason mraz and howie day).

we have been thinking about doing a 'mass-mp3-generation' day where our servers would go through and 're-run' the derive.php task on ALL the shows and if they were a band that didn't want mp3s they would still be blocked from being made (from the CAT.lossy file i believe).

if you have specific 'old' shows you want mp3s made of, post them here and i'll re-run the file derive.php task and make them.

but as far as a whole 'rerun' everything... we will try and bring that back up soon to discuss!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 7, 2012 5:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hey tyler!

right, i know very well about the _rules.conf and how there can be show-based rules as well as band-based rules.

i guess part of a scheme could be to try to recontact any band that prohibited mp3/ogg in the past and see if they still feel the same.

re-deriving audio is cheap/easy! 8-)

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Poster: docroze Date: Mar 5, 2012 12:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

This may have nothing to do with the new player, but I can no longer embed the 1933 film version of THE EMPEROR JONES starring Paul Robeson. It reverts to the audio recording featuring James Earl Jones. The URLs differ---Emperer vs. Emperor---but any embedding code goes to the Jones audio even though the url is Emperor, not Emperer.

Moving Image Archive - 1933 film starring Paul Robeson
http://www.archive.org/details/TheEmpererJones

Community Audio - audio featuring James Earl Jones
http://www.archive.org/details/TheEmperorJones

Is there a fix for this?

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Poster: uell1797 Date: Mar 9, 2012 2:37pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Works great. Couldn't be better.Thanks ///

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Poster: PeterT23 Date: Apr 7, 2012 4:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Can someone tell me how the bitrate of this embedded new player compares to mp3s? I usually download the CBR 320bps zip file; is this stream comparable? Thanks!

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Poster: pgp Date: Mar 26, 2012 10:29am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I can't see the pop-up in any browser (ie, firefox, and chrome). Any suggestions?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 10:32am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

what pop up?
for the embed codes or something?

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Poster: pgp Date: Mar 26, 2012 11:21am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Yeah, where it gives you the option for "Info Formats &Embedding, FB, and Twitter."

I upload the audio, let it process, click on the archive.org logo at the end of the player with this text underneath it.

I will try and upload a screen shot of what I am seeing.

If this isn't it, should I just click on "switch me back to old player"?

I don't want to be stuck with an older player that won't play the files.


This all came about because currently audio on our site is not playing with a player that we have used on 99% of our site. The player was working not even a week ago.

You can see the player on this URL: http://www.piie.com/publications/interviews/interview.cfm?ResearchID=2022





Attachment: archive.jpg

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 12:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

*thanks* for the link!
i see the problem, immediately.
it relates to unrelated change to the new player to make
our new "canonical" url for our site go from
"www.archive.org"
to
"archive.org"

http://archive.org/~tracey/test/boo.htm

in the short-term, if you like, drop the "www." from all instances in your embed code and things should work. meanwhile, i *will* come up with a fix for this because we *won't* allow this to break.

our bad for this oversight and bad bug, sorry!
-tracey

[EDIT: fixed sitewide -- your link and everyone else's now works again. sorry about that!]


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Poster: pgp Date: Mar 26, 2012 12:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thank you so much for doing that

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 1:26pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

oh, and to get our updated/new embed code and to see lots of example/variant embed styles (with or without playlist? autoplay? more!)
from your "archive.jpg" attachment,
click the "Click for Embedding Tips and Help" image/link
and you'll get to that embedding page.

(for "short" audio items, we don't have enough vertical space to write the embed code into the player area -- for videos, we don't have this issue, so another option is to try a video on our site and click the "greek columns" icon and you'll see the embed code directly, as an example, there at least)
-tracey

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Poster: zman58 Date: Apr 8, 2012 8:38pm
Forum: movies Subject: "Reply to this Post" link is not working properly

I was unable to directly use the "Reply to this Post" link in responding to the topmost post. here:
http://archive.org/post/408575/new-video-audio-player-opt-in-is-live

The topmost "Reply to this Post" on the URL above was saved as follows:
http://archive.org/iathreads/post-new.php?reply=1&;parentid=408575&threadid=408575&nested=1&subject=Re%3A%20new%20video%2Faudio%20player%20%27opt%20in%27%20is%20live%21&forum=movies

Selecting the "Reply to this Post" link, using left mouse key as would be expected, does nothing. I tried it several times but it does nothing.
As a result I had to open the "Reply to this Post" link in a new separate tab to be able to respond to it. --which I am doing now.

I am running Firefox 11.0 on Linux Mint Debian Edition. With all updates applied. I am not seeing this problem

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 11, 2012 12:44pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 'Reply to this Post' link is not working properly

it uses some very basic javascript to request the "reply to" form from the server so it can inline show it (so you can see what you're replying to).
I put that change in maybe 2 months ago?

Anyway, sounds like there is a JS issue with your setup or something...

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Poster: PhaedraBlue Date: Apr 13, 2012 12:56pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: 'Reply to this Post' link is not working properly

Your problem just happened to me this morning. So I right clicked and opened - then I wrote my problem and query but when I went to post my reply the message "Your post has been successfully applied" popped up for a split second then it defaulted to "error: you haven't chosen a forum". Since the "forum" was listed on my post for "Movies" I couldn't figure out what was going on. I went through this several times only to discover after I had refreshed my screen that my original post had been posted here about 6 times; so then I can do go back through and delete all of the extra posts. I see that someone else has posted their same message three times on here which indicates to me that I am not the only one with this issue.

Toni of Olympia, WA

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Poster: spyder9 Date: Jul 23, 2012 8:04pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I prefer Flash over Html. Fuller sound, bass more responsive. I use Google Chrome. My hardware is Benchmark DAC1 > KRK VXT4's. My 2 cents.

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Poster: axisofthewheel Date: Mar 27, 2012 7:27am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm pleased with this player works great on my mac

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 27, 2012 7:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

phew, great to hear, thanks!

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Poster: happy2balive Date: Mar 15, 2012 8:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I can't listen to anything last night or this morning. Would love to know how to correct this, at home or at my office, different computers obviously. old player or new, no sound.
thanks for your assistance.

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Poster: woodnco01 Date: Apr 10, 2012 10:10am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I am having trouble controlling the video/audio player.
It is much too sensitive for my control. I cannot move it slowly enough to select what I want.
Also on "Yours Truly Johnny Dollar" when I start listening, it continues for about 3 minutes and then jumps to the next selection, and continues repeating this.

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Poster: 50's sitcom fan Date: Feb 26, 2012 9:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I just found your site. I tried to watch an episode of Burns and Allen on my Kindle Fire and couldn't do so until I chose to use your media player. It worked perfectly!!! Thank you for a great site and an awesome media player! Smiles, Sue

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 27, 2012 1:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yay! thanks for the feedback!
(that's the first we've heard on The Fire, as far as I know, so that's great to know!)
-tracey, staff

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Poster: vlfradio Date: Apr 12, 2012 1:43am
Forum: movies Subject: please allow for longer file names to be seen!

Hello IA!

I love IA! My only issue with new player is too-short view of file names in the new embedded player - any way to make them see longer file name descriptions like the older one did??

Thanks - Steve McGreevy

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 12, 2012 10:49am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: please allow for longer file names to be seen!

on monday, I made it so that you get "tool tips" when you mouseover
the titles -- at least when the player is in "html5" mode
(you can tell by right-clicking over the player and seeing if it looks like
the typical flash menu (flash mode) or not (html5 mode))

so that should at least help for some of that.

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Poster: George Maynard Date: Sep 14, 2012 12:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Dear Tracey & Archives Staff:

I tried to play a few versions of MamasWill2010 on your new player.

I found that the playback stops intermittently. The problem persists even with the version H.264 124MB Comp 20%, that is, I compressed it down to 20% of the original source, a file which I brought back with me from school.

The original source is Mama's Will_AVID Media Composer_4.14GB, a Quick Time file taken off the Avid MC Editing Workstation at Concordia University. Of course, I am working with digital material taken off from Sony HD F-900 Cameras. Why should HD be a problem after it has gone thorough the editor? Maybe the wide format 1920 x 1080?

I wonder if going back to your old player would make a difference? If I do, can I come back again to your new player?

As with the posting of The Agony of the Ecstasy (2002), my aim in posting Mama's Will (2010) on the Archives is to allow my graduate thesis film to be seen by a greater audience, including the supportive texts showing the public how such a piece of video art is conceived and produced at the film school level.

In any event, I'd like to thank you and your staff for allowing MamasWill2010 to be place in the Community Video section of your Archives. Thanks!

Sincerely yours,
David George Menard, Post Graduate Film Production,
Mel Hoppenheim School of Cinema, Concordia University,
Montreal, Quebec Canada.

P.S. If I over-edited some of the text files supporting MamasWill2010, like some sections of my MFA thesis, please forgive me. I'll leave the licensing job to the Archives. Thanks! DGM/09-14-12.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 4, 2013 10:57am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

it sounds simply like a bandwidth problem.
our player will use our ~1000kb/sec "derivative" (h.264) .mp4 files
for playing.

there are subtle coloring differences in the timeline/scrubber portion to show the later part of the video buffering/download, vs. where in the video it is playing. can you see if that's the issue -- that the two indicators race into each other at the times of the stopping intermittently?

i would guess you had the same issues w/ our prior player?

you could alternatively try the "Prefer flash?" link under the video to try flash (if you weren't already) since it can do in some setups a slightly better job of "frame dropping" if it's a CPU issue or in some bandwidth cases).

-tracey

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Poster: zenoooo Date: Apr 8, 2012 11:30am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Microsoft Windows 7 - 64 bit edition — Internet Explorer 8: For what ever reason I am now not able to download episodes (gunsmoke) to real player. I believe this happened shortly after I received "You Are Now Using Our New Video/Audio Player". Any help would be appreciated. I am but much of a neophyte so not to technical please.

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Poster: PhaedraBlue Date: Apr 13, 2012 11:19am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi Tracey Pooh.

As I've already mentioned in an earlier post. The new player playes the video immediately but the sound control because null. Here is the link to one of the movies I have watched today:

http://archive.org/details/Breakdowns_Blowups_1936-1947

I'm using the latest Internet Explorer my machine is top of the line gamers machine with Windows 7. When I was running Windows XP I had some issues with the new player bogging down maybe due to cpu usage, so I always used the old player. Today I discovered that I couldn't get some of the movie DLs to play even on the old play and had to download them directly to my computer. I don't mind doing this because I have several different players loaded on my machine so I have no problems playing audio/video. But I am puzzled why your new version will not play the audio.

Let me walk you through it: When I choose a movie to watch before I click the play button the sound control is clearly activated. It's lit up with the sound wave )))) coming from the speaker symbol. The second I click to play the movie the sound symbol fades and the sound waves )))) disappear. There is no reaction whatsoever to clicking on the sound symbol. It's deactivated. Any clues?

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Poster: vitzli Date: Jun 14, 2012 7:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

No matter which computer with which operating system I use, the film Mr. Moto's Last Warning will not play. The "circle of doom" just keeps on rotating, stuck on frame 1 of the film. The "old" player played everything, the "new" one seems to play only selected films, for instance the 1912 Cleopatra.......

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Poster: bassasswards Date: Jan 24, 2012 5:53pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Cox Internet is unreliable. I use a dial up for Back up. Your new player requires more bandwidth. Stay with the older player for dial up users.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 24, 2012 6:19pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

since maybe a year ago, our new .mp4 derivative video files are indeed slightly bigger
(went up from 512kb/sec to 700kb/sec for the video track, plus another ~128kb/sec for the audio).

but the new vs. old player will have no bearing on .mp4 filesize and bandwidth as they both use "progressive download" of our .mp4 / .ogv files

however, if you ended up in a scenario where the new player was preferring the .mp4 and the older one was preferring the .ogv, then you *would* see some increased bandwidth. but i think that shouldn't really ever happen...

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Poster: grantneko Date: Feb 4, 2012 7:42pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I really like it! It seems to not be so glitchy. I know my PC isn't the best, but to be able to have it stream the way it does... Nice change!

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Poster: Swalbr Date: Jan 29, 2012 4:40pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!


This post was modified by Swalbr on 2012-01-30 00:36:45

This post was modified by Swalbr on 2012-01-30 00:40:53

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Poster: Accountant Date: Jan 29, 2012 6:50am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I am getting the same response. Little wheel goes round and round but nothing happens until I go to sleep and remember nothing. HELP!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 2:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

would you mind checking again in case things are better?

i've been factoring a lot of bug fixes and updates based on all the great feedback and think there's a chance some of the fixes might help you...

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Poster: zgunydaeh Date: Sep 20, 2012 11:49am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I very much like the new player. However, regularly (every half hour or sometimes less) the player just stops. I have to hit play again, at which point I've lost where I was in the song. Again, I very much like the new layout, and keep up the great work!

I'm using Google Chrome Version: 22.0.1229.52 beta-m

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Poster: zgunydaeh Date: Sep 24, 2012 10:22am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've now realized that I have the problem only when I use the HTML5 version of the player. The Flash version works flawlessly! Thanks for the hard work!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 28, 2013 11:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hmm... well that's kind of nonideal but at least there is some kind of workaround...

by the way, over the weekend we changed the default player to be what was previously the "opt-in to try our new player".

so feel free to re-check how things are for you and report back if anything's changed from your perspective.

thx, and sorry for the imperfect experience!

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Poster: zenoooo Date: Apr 8, 2012 3:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I have lost my ability to download episodes to real player.
Help

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Poster: rsanchez1937 Date: Jul 29, 2012 2:47pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Cannot hear the audio at full volume for the Green Hornet.
I have a Vista Ultimate
Is there a fix?

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Poster: Trishie Date: Nov 30, 2012 7:45am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

WHY HAVE YOU POSTED THIS VIDEO OF TRISH BENTLEY (says Whitby Shores)?

You have NO authorization and the video is 12 years old. PLEASE REMOVE THIS video or you will hear from our lawyers.
THank you for your prompt response.

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Poster: 2Hi Date: Mar 28, 2012 5:34am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi, why is there no player for String Cheese 2-13-99 at the Ten Mile Room? Thanks.

Mark

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 9:24am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

[i've asked the pros ;-) ]
http://archive.org/post/416069/question-for-admins-about-a-cheese-show-and-no-mp3s

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Poster: 2Hi Date: Mar 28, 2012 1:09pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: Mar 28, 2012 3:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

mp3s are there now!

http://archive.org/details/sci1999-02-13.daud.flac16

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Poster: 2Hi Date: Mar 28, 2012 3:59pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Well so they are! Thank you kindly!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 4:18pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

happy to help!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 9:21am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i thought it was because it somehow didn't derive (so I ran another derive on it). but it's actually because this individual show has a rule prohibiting mp3 and ogg from being created -- not sure exactly why

http://ia700201.us.archive.org/17/items/sci1999-02-13.daud.flac16/sci1999-02-13.daud.flac16_rules.conf

maybe Tyler or someone in the Live Music Archive would know?

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Poster: ECB Date: Jan 29, 2012 4:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Why does the audio still pause between songs? Can't it be seamless or is that simply too much for the servers to handle? (I'm not being facetious). Thanks for everything, y'all rawk.

EB

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Poster: franlezott Date: Jan 30, 2012 8:04am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I have exactly the same question? Is there a way to set it to stop the pausing?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 11, 2012 12:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

these are slight delays due to buffering.

it really comes down to the software to try to get around that.

*yes* it is technically possible in all environments with javascript (not flash -- that I know less about innards-wise) and that are not iOS (they don't allow you to be buffer 2 A/V media files at once) where i've made three generations of javascript code and players that allow the client/browser to be buffering the next clip to go in a hidden player in the background -- so when it comes time for the "next song", it's already prebuffered and you just swap the players and pause/play, respectively!

however, it has implications to the A/V players we use and how they interact with playlists and embed codes, etc. so it gets tricky fast. it's not likely we'll go that route (since it's always the first thing to be blamed for any kind of issue in internal using it for many many months).

another option is a kind of "media pipe" that you just throw bytes into. that works brilliantly well when the media is relatively/completely uniform (which thankfully it most often is for us, since we are playing our "derivatives" most of the time and we have similar pixels sizes (videos) and framerates and bitrates (both audio and video)). this is how providers like netflix operate -- you get lists of ~10 second little chunks of A/V in a constant stream, and the client just keeps playing what it gets. however, that's obviously a bit more complex than we'd like. we aren't splitting our audio/video into 10-second little file chunks and even if we did or did that "dynamically" on the backend (or just sent the whole file down these "byte tubes" 8-) it requires more smarts in the player and client end.

that latter one, is relatively industry standard (also referred to HLS and/or apple adaptive streaming) and just about every mobile device and browser (and most players) can handle it. since it's standardized, we *may* go with it in the future, but it's not anything short-to-medium term if i use my psychic powers at the archive 8-)

hope that's way more info than you'd care for on your saturday morning-with-coffee wanted to know!

-tracey, staff

PS: we have continually been a bit baffled by the large A/V player javascript library offerings *not* including a javascript "prebuffer next clip if client platform can" option. we've asked it of every major player we've used here: flowplayer, mwEmbed (Kaltura), and jwplayer; and even of some browser folks. we often get answers "it's not possible" (it is!) and see plenty of other users w/ same request in the player package folks' forums. I think the HLS solution makes most player package developers feel they'd rather support that instead... (HLS is also a bit more "ad serving" and content protection/encryption friendly/common, and they are all in the side business of getting bills paid, too, soo.....)





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Poster: FeedbackMonitor Date: Aug 10, 2012 9:28am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hello,

I am a GNU/Linux user and use a variety of Linux approved by the Free Software Foundation (FSF) as truly free, as in freedom. http://www.gnu.org/

I regret to say that your media player complies with systems that use proprietary software and not free ones. Consequently, your information is privileged only to corporate interests or those under their control.

Please take a moment to look up gnu.org and the guidelines therein. It would be a shame to let archive.org, which is a noble idea, under control of Adobe and other such interests.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 9, 2013 10:40am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i believe you are referring to the use of flash and .swf as a fallback option?

there is an opensource FLEX builder/compiler that jwplayer points to and AFAIK uses to make their .swf files. their .as (actionscript) code is available and opensource online.

i'm not a lawyer or remotely aware of much of the issues at hand. however, the player checks, with open JS code, to see if browser doesn't seem to be able to playback html5 video tagged audio/video by default, and if it doesn't seem to be able, uses JS code to see if flash plugin is installed. if so, it changes the play area into an object tag. so what the user's browser does from there is kind of somewhere in the gray zone of us "under control of Adobe", maybe?

anyway, please feel free to re-look at our setup and comment more about what you primarily object to. for example, would you prefer we just issue a "your OS/browser cannot play this media" message instead of falling back to checking for flash?

we appreciate your concerns, and everyone on staff is concerned with opensource tools, solutions, and software. we use anything outside of that world as little as absolutely possible!

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Poster: clp8992 Date: Jun 29, 2012 12:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I am trying to listen to several different Suspense episodes and the new player will only load about half of each episode. I liked the old player because it loaded the whole episode without any problems. However, it will not play anything now, it won't even load the episode. I am using Windows 7 with EI 9. Is there a fix for this??

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Poster: wildcatherder Date: Jul 1, 2012 4:47pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I simply don't hear anything with the HTML5 player. I am using Google Chrome 20.0.1132.47 m on Windows XP Service Pack 3. It appears to be playing but I don't hear anything until I switch to Flash.

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Poster: Cyberflyer Date: Feb 4, 2012 10:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player.

Finally,something that runs on my iPad. I run iOS on an iPad 2. This how I spend 95% of my time on the archive. This player is for first time I count play audio without downloading the files into separate tabs. Thanks for making the archive usable on the iPad.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Feb 4, 2012 11:01pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player.

yay. thanks so much for letting us know.

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 23, 2012 3:02am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

If you use this as the music player on Android, you get a blank screen with a spinning 'loading video' logo for a HUGE amount of time, followed by a totally black screen while the music is playing! If you have a device without a hardware back button, the only way out of this is to reboot the device! Film is also forced to full screen as well (not always appropriate, especially if embedded), but at least clicking the full screen button several times eventually takes you back. (Mind you, it stops the playback, and you can only start again from the beginning as the seek,jump forward/back controls don't work at all, even if you get them. Then it goes back to full screen....*sigh*)
Even if you do manage to get out of the browser the new player no longer plays in the background.
About a third of the time, returning from a forced-to-fullscreen embedded item takes you back to it's Internet Archive page, rather than back to the article you were reading.
I'm sure you'll agree that,all in all, this is a totally lousy user experience :-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 11:58am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, i can reproduce *some* of that.

playing audio, when in "html5" mode on android (the default for most audio with our new player) does insert a [video] tag -- which causes playback to open the .mp4 style player and make a black screen and play the audio. so i will see if we can make that be an audio tag not video...

meanwhile, there is a new "I prefer flash" link at the bottom of the new player. if you click that, the behaviour is nearly identical to the old player -- it sends you a flash-plugin audio playing experience and the performance/experience here was the same in old player (flash) vs. new player (flash).

can't reproduce the "spining for HUGE amounts of time" here. I'm hoping that you just got unlucky w/ an item on a slow server (ie: not player related).

"Even if you do manage to get out of the browser the new player no longer plays in the background."
...neither does the old player.




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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 25, 2012 6:11pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Er, the old player does work in the background, in fact it's doing it now as I type this!
I noticed the increased load time whilst I was updating a lot of embeds to the new player. Every time, if I embedded the same file in both formats on the same page, the new embed was far slower to load. One of the drawbacks of using iframes.
Also, when it comes to keeping everybody's sites running smoothly, I'd question the wisdom of switching to iframes anyway. A lot of blogging, forum, and 'make your own website'sites don't allow iframes

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 31, 2012 7:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hi again,

yes, for browsers that *can* support a direct flash object/embed tag, the iframe method will be a bit slower these days in comparison.

but it's not entirely for flash-vs-html5 -- we are doing a *lot* more under the hood to:
- properly identify the files of an item (eg: if an item changes or file renames -- you're often toast w/ flash direct files named)
- find any captioning information -- over time, we plan to add "Universal Subtitles", which means multi-lingual tracks may appear over time and the new /embed/ codes will "just work"
- allow playlists

but yah, i notice it on my own site/blog -- adding a bunch of /embed/ permalinks is a bit more "expensive". but we're hoping their permanency over
time and their flexibility and auto-updating will more than make up for it.

many of the other embed media sites have opted for iframes as well, and we are taking our lead from what we believe to be the industry standard.

may not be "news to you" or super convincing/great for you to hear, but there are some of the thoughts in a post, at least!

-tracey



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Poster: Mystic550 Date: May 26, 2012 5:30am
Forum: movies Subject: Old Flash Embed Code No Longer Works

I have IA videos embedded on my website and I noticed that the old Flash embed code is no longer working. When I click on a video I get the error "303: Failed to load a resource". I thought maybe it was because IA had dropped www from their address so I changed the embed code to remove www, but still the same error. Has the old Flash embed code been disabled and retired?

For the new HTML 5 embed code I have tested it but still see issues:
Google Chrome 19 - Works
Firefox 12 - Full screen does not work
IE 9 - Doesn't work, blank screen in place of player
Opera 11.64 - Full screen does not work, 2 buttons shifted off the bottom of player

Thanks
Eddie

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: May 26, 2012 9:03am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Old Flash Embed Code No Longer Works

I can fix ASAP if you can paste a link to your site/embed?
We intend to keep them working forever...

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Poster: Mystic550 Date: May 26, 2012 10:06am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Old Flash Embed Code No Longer Works

Here is an example link to an embed on my site, all embeds are doing this.
http://mystic-nights.com/videos/media/9801/Murder_on_the_High_Seas_1932/

This is the IA page for the movie
http://archive.org/details/murder_on_the_high_seas

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: May 26, 2012 10:42am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: Old Flash Embed Code No Longer Works

ok, working again.
so sorry about that. some of our team was trying to clean up some old dusty code and missed that rather unusual url we handed out for some time
as a needed-to-still-work example.

http://archive.org/download/murder_on_the_high_seas/format=Thumbnail?.jpg

i've fixed up the code and stamped that example inside the code/testing
so that hopefully we don't miss that agin!

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Poster: gnikhog Date: Sep 13, 2012 12:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I always get 'choppy' playback when listening to audio files when using Firefox 15. Audio is smooth when using the flash player. When using Chrome browser, audio playback is smooth with the new player. Connection is a 2.7 Mbs DSL line.

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Poster: Fireball803 Date: Feb 19, 2012 2:12pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I would like to be able to give you feedback but I haven't been able to listen to the show because it keeps kicking me out to give feedback.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 7, 2012 5:13pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

are you essentially reporting that some of the audio tracks end early?

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Poster: ACT1 NowPlaying Date: Jan 19, 2012 6:57pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

How do I switch to the old player please?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 8:15pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i'm sorry to say the old player is scheduled for demolition relatively soon... 8-(

for IE7 and IE8, we had a small but toxic issue that makes going back to it inadvisable as well...

-tracey, archive staff

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Poster: old78collector Date: Jan 19, 2012 1:12pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player sounds great, but for me it is consistently cutting off the last several seconds of each track (i.e. sound abruptly stops several seconds before the end of the track). IE 8 and Windows 7.

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Poster: old78collector Date: Jan 20, 2012 8:49am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Just to clarify re cutting off the end of the track: the player under-estimates the length of the selection, for example, it will say the track is 3:02 when it is really 3:08, and will then play through only until 3:02, cutting off the last several seconds of audio (this is with audio-only use). I don't see any similar reports, so maybe it's just something flukey with my configuration. I'll try on some other folk's systems and report back.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 19, 2012 3:39pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hmmm....
i got nothing so far 8-)
but will try to see if i can reproduce and if anything can be done...
-tracey

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Poster: SandraJDykes Date: Mar 21, 2012 8:41pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I can't seem to get autoplay to work. Doing everything by the instructions.... thx

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 26, 2012 1:23pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

not sure if you mean audio or video,
but i assume you are talking about an off-site embed of our items, correct?

instructions here:
http://archive.org/help/audio.php
http://archive.org/help/video.php

but basically you'd want an embed code (inside a sized [iframe] tag (instructions above) that ultimately has an url inside it like:

http://archive.org/embed/camels&autoplay=1

-tracey


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Poster: SandraJDykes Date: Mar 26, 2012 2:56pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm talking about video that is embedded to an outside source, yes. Specifically Classic Cinema Online.

I did use the instructions you posted but for some reason the videos didn't play. One of them does play, though.

Since I'm in the process of upgrades I'll wait and see how these do on the site after it is uploaded to my new server with the upgraded site - I'm wondering if maybe the new players just aren't compatible with my archaic site.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 28, 2012 4:19pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

in that case, i wonder if it's that our servers/network periodically right now are getting a bit "very busy" at times.
any more progress/observations?

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Poster: SandraJDykes Date: Mar 28, 2012 6:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Well - since you mentioned that - I've been getting a lot of emails from Classic Cinema Online viewers that certian movies and serials aren't loading or playing at all - and they're all ones that are being hosted by the archives. I've been meaning to ask about that because I have a lot of the old code on there and it seems that many - but not all - of those embedded using the old code aren't playing anymore - but I'm able to update those with the newer player code.

If the old code is no longer viable then I have some work ahead of me changing those embedded ones over to the new code. lol

I have been explaining to people that it's possible the servers are busy and to please try back in a bit, though.

Since I'm in the process of upgrading Classic Cinema Online I won't be able to measure any further progress until the upgrades are complete. It could be a few weeks - I have to completely rebuild Classic Cinema Online from the inside out. I kind of have a sneaking suspicion, though, that the new players will work better once I've finished that - the system I'm running on right now is a little on the ancient side. lol

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Poster: SandraJDykes Date: Apr 6, 2012 5:35am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Tracey - I've been trying to reply to your reply to my post but when I click to reply on your post the system doesn't recognize that I'm logged in - so I hope you see this because I'm replying here instead of there.

Anyway thanks for your reply - I'm still getting complaints - a viewer in Australia tells me the movies aren't loading for them.

I'm seeing they play for me - after a delay. Also, I think people are getting confused - they see that play button while the movie is trying to load and when they click on it it pauses the movie. Is there any way to change the image when the autoplay is set so that people know the movie is loading? Thx

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 4:31pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hey there,
let me know if things are better now.
we think we're working properly now on the "main browsers" out there:

-firefox
-safari
-IE7, IE8, IE9
-chrome
-firefox v3.6
-iOS
-some android

still looking into seeing if still issues on Iceweasel (linux firefox) and PlayStation...

but at any rate, hopefully much more of the embeds and videos are playing now and your users are happier.

please let me know how everything is going...


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Poster: SandraJDykes Date: Apr 6, 2012 9:44pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

My apologies for the delayed response - I tried responding to this earlier but kept getting an error message telling me I needed to log in to reply, and I WAS logged in. lol!

Anyway - I got a comment that some of the movies aren't loading for viewers in Australia.

Also, what I think is happening - many of these when they are set to auto load will show a picture of the "play" button while they're loading, rather than the "loading" image - so what may be happening is people are clicking on that play button which seems to pause the movie rather than load it, depending on which browser a person is using.

I tried to put a movie poster image in there but it won't show a poster and auto-load at the same time - is there a way to change that play button to a "loading" indicator when it's configured to auto load to avoid the confusion?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffStoneAge Records Date: Mar 24, 2012 4:44pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The new player is better than the previous one. I love the GUI and it works well as embedded into my site. Cheers for the improvement!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 24, 2012 4:48pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hooray, thanks! 8-)
-tracey, staff

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Poster: flmovieboy Date: Jan 21, 2012 5:56pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Will not work for me.
Wish we could opt for the old player.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 10:28am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

what's your specifics?
can you reply w/ your OS and browser (eg: IE v8)
as well as a /details/ link that doesn't work for you?
thanks!
-tracey

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Poster: Hal Erickson Date: Jan 21, 2012 8:47am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Okay, the new screen works consistently but only on Google Chrome. However, when I go "full screen" the picture begins to strobe, flicker and stall. It only moves smoothly when reduced. There are still plenty of problems with this new screen.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 10:27am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

that sounds like your machine characteristics aren't quite "enough" to blow up the video (in software -- not in hardware accelerated fullscreen like flash can hook into).

there's now a "I prefer flash" link at the bottom of the new player where, using
the new player, you can tell it to only serve flash-plugin audio/video instead of html5.

-tracey

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Poster: Galamyk Date: Jan 22, 2012 5:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Замечательный плеер, хорошее качество, и, главное, работает на iPad.

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Poster: Fish-Head Date: Nov 15, 2012 8:09am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm having a really hard time adjusting the volume on the new media player. It's kind of tricky to click into it and make small adjustments. With the old player it was easy to slide the volume control back and forth to adjust incrementally.Would love to see that control on the new player if possible!

Love Love Love the site. Keep up the great work!

Fish-Head

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Nov 20, 2012 10:30am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

we'll have a updated player out in the next 3-6 months and it wil make the volume adjustments a lot easier!

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Poster: Fish-Head Date: Nov 20, 2012 12:33pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

That's great! Thanks for the reply.

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 22, 2012 4:57pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Terrible player - non functioning scroll (moving forward or back through the film kills it permanently, even reloading the page doesn't work), very hit-and-miss full screen, and ugly as sin. I'm just glad the flash player option is still there. It seems daft to expend all this time, money and effort at the moment, rather than sticking with a tried, tested, and above all, working technology. Why not wait until an actual, reliable, working html5 standard has actually been put in place?

Chrome browser, win7,
and Android tablet

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Poster: Accountant Date: Jan 25, 2012 6:24am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I get nothing but the "pinwheel" with any player, old or new. Why the hell are you fixing something that wasn't broken in the first place? Just go back to square 1 and let us watch the videos we want.
P.S. I was able to bookmark the video but cannot watch it.
I use IE9.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 22, 2012 5:03pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

not working at all on iOS isn't a really good option. that pretty well makes the old player a not single solution for us.

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 22, 2012 6:42pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Oh, and the other thing to consider is the fact that there are now at least as many Android devices as there are ipads, and the new player is a total disaster on Android. Do all Android users get abandoned as well?

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 22, 2012 6:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

It seems incredible to me that pandering to ios users is pushing the internet back into the dark ages. Html5 video playback is a thoroughly nasty experience compared to Flash, and will be for years to come.
As long as the Flash player is available as an alternative there is no problem, but are you really planning abandoning the majority of users for a small, albeit trendy, minority?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 10:30am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

you seem to be overlooking that not everyone is in the same setup as you.

to wit, the html5 option is **much** better and more efficient for nearly all scenarios of:
-iOS
-any macos
-most linux
-some (maybe lots?) win7 + IE9 setups

macos/iOS do not have flash implementations where they can hook into a decent hardware acceleration of many of the video instructions --unlike the case for windows.


given the severity and utter rancor you have for html5,
i've add, to the bottom of the new player, a new
"I prefer flash"
link (which will still use the new player, but will not serve html5 as a possibility).

hopefully that will make the android setup happier?

-tracey
PS: it's not like we dont like android (which is now just slightly less market share than iOS). we prefer it here for its more open ecosystem. however, we just dont have a lot of their devices here as readily available as iOS. the older player doesn't even work *at all* in iOS (and can't -- because it is "flash only").

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Poster: pegz Date: Jan 25, 2012 5:50pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm not particularly anti html5, I use it a lot. It's just that, at the moment it has a lot of limitations, no standard formats, and at the moment is definitely not cross browser compatible! No one would object to a new player that works properly, and the option to choose an alternative player is exactly what's needed. What most people object to (me included) is being told that this is going to be it from now on, whether it works on your system or not.
Flash is going to be around for years, people have far to much time and money invested in it to just dump it, and it's just so much more advanced. (Look at sites like http://www.audiotool.com/app . Try doing that in html5!)
Thank you for the 'I prefer flash' link, as long as it stays there until the other player is fully working, then I'm sure we'll all be happy bunnies :-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jan 25, 2012 6:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yay/phew
[group hug]

ok, yes, we plan to leave that option there for a very long time.
agreed, htm5 is great mostly but is not solution for 100% of the setups/situations.

so no worries -- one of the reasons i stalked this particular player, the jwplayer, is because it does *both* htm5 and flash.

i should have made the toggle/preference sooner
my bad for not realizing that -- and in the same sentence, let me thank you and others for bringing that oversight to our attention!

cheers!
-tracey

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Poster: Photon Ghoul Date: Feb 3, 2012 1:14am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Win 7 64, Chrome

Right-clicking on the player:

1) Moves the current position in the track
2) Stops playback
3) Prevents resumption of playback

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 7, 2012 5:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hmm, i'm not able to reproduce that on a win7 box with chrome 8-(

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffnoneabove Date: Feb 1, 2012 5:47pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Having some issues that don't seem to be covered by the posts here. (Excuse me if I missed it.) I'm trying to embed the audio player for the first time, so no idea if this is entirely related to the new player or just embedding in general.

- From what I can work out here embedding only uses the new player.
- For some reason the new HTML5 player is a blank, black rectangle on my system. Flash player works, but clicking the ia.org logo doesn't give me plain old html embed options: only the facebook button and half the twitter fit within the window, if there's any other buttons past that I can't see them.
- The 'embed this' code beneath the old player presumably uses the HTML5 version by default and not the Flash because I can't see anything on my embedded page but a black rectangle.
- Weirdly, I'm using Debian Linux and Iceweasel, for which most people seem to find HTML5 a better option.

So I have no real idea why I have this set or problems or what solutions might be. Any ideas?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffnoneabove Date: Feb 2, 2012 4:11pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Just for more detail (and a bump), I have cleared my cache and I still can't get embedding code for the Flash player, just FB/Tw buttons that don't fit in the window.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Feb 10, 2012 5:16pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, please try again now.
sounds like you were using/getting the "flash variant" of our new player
for item(s) with less than 4 playlist entries.

we had an issue there where the "sharing" popup couldn't fit and had, yah, lots of issues.

that should be fixed now!
can you let me know...


sorry for the troubles!
-tracye

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffnoneabove Date: Feb 12, 2012 6:17pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Ok. So the flash version 'sharing' window now fits but it still only has 'F', 'T' and a link to the archive.org site on it. It still doesn't have a flash-player-only embed code.

The embedding code taken from the 'embed this' link seems to default to the HTML5 version. On my computer the HTML5 version is a big, black square with no embedded player in it that does nothing. For obvious reasons I'm not installing that on my website if it does nothing at my end.

So the problem is still the same. :/

It seems to me that the easiest solution at both ends is working out how to either force the new flash player only when embedding, or to show the embed code that forces the old player only.

As for getting the 'right' solution, I don't know why the HTML5 doesn't work at my end, but if you want details on my software/hardware setup, just ask. Happy to help debug if I can.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 7, 2012 5:19pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

consider me asking! 8-)
what's your OS + browser exhibiting the html5 fail?

and at least one /details/ link/url page would be great to start diagnosing.

we could even have you go to some known item and at a time when we're both around and i could see if i can figure any unusual issues/errors from this side.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 7, 2012 5:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

[read back up the chain...]
Debian Linux and Iceweasel is your setup?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffnoneabove Date: Mar 8, 2012 10:02pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Debian Squeeze - 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel.
Iceweasel - 3.5.16

> and at least one /details/ link/url page would be great

Not sure what you mean by this - every audio player page on archive.org yields the same results...?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 12, 2012 10:42am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok.
i was about to say "well, i guess we don't support iceweasel" but then my coworker told me "oh, that is firefox, basically/really".

hmmmm.... firefox on unix is working for us, so I'm not sure what is going on for you...

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Mar 15, 2012 11:08am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I'm using Red Hat 5, Firefox 3.6.26 and get a black box. This occurs for every item I've checked so far (video, audio).

http://www.archive.org/details/OTRR_Escape_Singles

Choosing a preference between flash or html5 does not make a different.

Choosing the old player works.

Is there a particular plugin required for the new player?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 11:14am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

just the flash plugin.
it's possible the "agent detection" isn't "wide enough" inside jwplayer's inner JS code. i will try to see if i can figure anything out....
(thanks for the details OS + browser info!!)

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Mar 15, 2012 11:16am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Thanks! This is my flash plugin:

Shockwave Flash

File: nswrapper_32_64.libflashplayer.so
Version:
Shockwave Flash 10.3 r183

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 11:19am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

yah, that should be a plenty good enough version (we require v9+)
and you said anyway the old player was working (also requires v9+)

hmmm......
wondering if maybe your firefox is confusing us to think it can play [video] tag so we're not giving you flash. but you said preferring flash didn't work either, hmm....

gonna see if i can make a "click here" page, possibly, for folks like you w/ issues to see if we can step thru answers of "do we think you have flash installed? do we think you can play it? do we think sample small item has a format you can play? do we think... " and so on...

-t

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 12:00pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ok, this is an active work-in-progress for me today.
it's very basic (1 main check) so far, but i will be adding to it all day...

http://www.archive.org/details/testplay

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Mar 15, 2012 12:14pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi,

That worked for me. Here is the text output:

Do we think: you have loaded jwplayer? ... yes
...jwplayer parsed properly? yes
...you have flash? true
This appears to be your agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.26) Gecko/20120130 Red Hat/3.6-1.el5_7 Firefox/3.6.26
Trying flash-only, default skin, mp4 only, minimal, embed:

(video of camels (?) played)

that seems to have played for you! correct?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 12:29pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

and ya, camels is just a very short video (ideal for testing) random-ness from the oakland zoo ;-)
let's just think of it as a reference to O'Reilly books 8-)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 12:22pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

ooh, woohoo! ok, now we're getting somewhere, *thanks* for your participation and basically helping us together to fix things! 8-)

i will start adding some more player tests like:
flash and html5
html5 and flash
our skin
our skin + our JS customizations (now i'm thinking the issue is happening in one of these for you, etc....)

awesome, thanks!
i'm still adding more checks....

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 15, 2012 11:15am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

i mean, the flash plugin, if the ogg can't natively play in your FFox -- and i *think* that's a pretty old ffox so won't be able to play [video] or [audio] tags? any consideration if it's years old to update or not ideal/possible?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 31, 2012 3:49pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

hey! can you try again and see if we back in business?
there was a bug for firefox and html5 video (sort of issue outside the player related to ogg files...)

also, i still continue to be unsure about firefox v3.6 that old (i thin that's ~Jan 2010) but it's worth a shot...

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Apr 2, 2012 9:40am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Hi,

When I check

http://www.archive.org/details/OTRR_Escape_Singles

I see a black box. If I switch to flash, though, it works.

I've checked a few other audio and video links and have the same results (flash works, html5 does not).

I'm fine with using flash.

Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 3:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Oh but this is redhat right?
Likely we see Iceweasel instead of firefox so I can widen our test

Can you paster your user agent or paste contents of
http://archive.org/details/testplay
?

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Apr 3, 2012 9:33am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

The testplay URL gives me the IA header/menu and a link to terms of use, but nothing else.

My user agent is:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.26) Gecko/20120130 Red Hat/3.6-1.el5_7 Firefox/3.6.26

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Apr 3, 2012 9:38am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I've been trying the Escape link and other audio/video after cleaning out all cookies. The player has been using flash automatically.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 3, 2012 1:49pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

so, it is working now for you?
thanks for the agent string -- we detect that to be this firefox 3.6 exception case, and if no "avpref" cookie set on a /details/ page request,
we set "avpref" cookie to "flash"
which will make flash kick in for our new player, instead of the html5.

so that *should* mean things are working for you now, pretty much every item. is that correct now?

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Poster: littlelucca Date: Apr 3, 2012 2:08pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Yes, that is correct. Thanks for your help!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 3, 2012 2:12pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

phew, yay!!!

thanks for *your* help sorting this out and for sticking with us through the bumps!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 2, 2012 3:25pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

Ok now I'm slightly confused. We should be catching "Firefox/3.6" and your agent. And you allow cookies since you can forum post. Maybe it was just the first reload of that page that failed but a second reload would be OK since cookie set on first load returns on 2nd+ load?
At least I think thats what should happen..

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Apr 1, 2012 3:06pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

FIXED (finally! 8-)
http://archive.org/post/416537/new-video-audio-player-opt-in-is-live

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 13, 2012 12:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

alright, i'm trying to dive more into this now.
i'm *hoping* it's part of the jwplayer JS detection code that is thinking your browser *can* play the html5 variant, but then thinks none of the formats are playable. (I have a similar issue here at home with the PlayStation (3) so am hoping they both have slightly similar issues -- because my PS3 *can* play .mp4/.mp3 via flash plugin (old player works) but as pooping out for the new player, too...)

-tracey

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Poster: dixiewreckt Date: Feb 27, 2012 12:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

sweet. but i wish that my music wasent cutoff just so i could reply to this post. That was kinda rude but the player is fine.

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Poster: dixiewreckt Date: Feb 27, 2012 12:35pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

sweet. i am replying stop cutting off my songs!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 6, 2012 5:30pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

only if you tell us a /details/ link that does it, and kindly your OS/browser combo.

well, we'll try to fix it no matter what, but thus far, been unreproducible, so your help will help us!
-t

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Poster: Brian Jude Date: Mar 18, 2012 11:45am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

I have the problem other users are having with all of my Blogger pages, whether I use the "old" player (which I don't think is that old" and the "new" one. Either way, the iframe codes do not work - I get the black bar with nothing in it. I find myself using the old old code, eg:



...and I have to manually change the file names, etc. VERY VERY VERY inconvenient! (I started some new podcasts on Wordpress, simply because you can just type [audio (file URL] and a player automatically appears. I may have to move all of my other podcasts to Wordpress in order to avoid this situation. PLEASE HELP!

Thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Mar 18, 2012 11:51am
Forum: movies Subject: Re: new video/audio player 'opt in' is live!

our embeds work in blogger as well as self-hosted wordpress.

i can help if you take a look at this new page:

http://www.archive.org/details/testplay

it will run a bunch of tests. if you can paste the results to a reply to this, i can then be much closer to figuring out where the issue is and fix it.

-tracey, staff
PS: w